I am sorry to disappoint you, Xeon

[Sam Hobbs]

This is a reply to A perfect storage solution for an application's data (http://www.codeguru.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=705748) in which Xeon says to "Get Bush outta office and get a better President!".

I am sorry to disappoint you, Xeon, but I think if I were president that I would do the same thing. Well, at least nearly the same thing.

I am anxiously waiting to hear what the President knows that we don't know. I assume there is a lot more that the President knows that he cannot tell most people in the world. There is probably at least one informant that seriously fears death. We all know that Saddam Hussein will kill an informant (even his own son) immediately as soon as he learns a person is disloyal. If he did not kill an informant immediately then he would torture them first. Right?

So I assume there are some very scary secrets that Bush knows about that he cannot tell us because if he did then Saddam Hussein would know who the imformant is. If I am wrong then I probably agree that our governemnt is making a big mistake. Since there are so few other government members speaking out against the war I assume there is sufficient reason to do what our government is doing. It is not just Bush.

The day will probably come soon when the world will thank the leaders of the United States and other countries for having done what is beihng done. If so then there are many very scary secrets that we have not yet been told.

I hope the words I use here are strong enough that they do not need any fancy formatting and colors and such.

[Mick]

I think XeOn was being humorous...I would think so, given XeOn's previous (is it thousands?) posts. Some of us use sarcasam or humor...so lets not take things to heart :) :) :)

[Sam Hobbs]

I should also add that I really do hope that the American (my) government and it's allies are doing the right thing. I hope that the good people of Iraq and it's neighbors will be grateful for liberating them. I am hopeful that by removing tyrany in Iraq that good people in that country and other countries in the world will prevail. There are governments in Iran, Korea, China and other places that will be weakend also and the good people will be strengthened. I am quite optimistic that the world will be a much better place without Saddam Hussein.

[Sam Hobbs]

Originally posted by Mick_2002
I think XeOn was being humorous...I would think so, given XeOn's previous (is it thousands?) posts. Some of us use sarcasam or humor...so lets not take things to heart :) :) :) I am probably not taking him as seriously as you might think. However if I am overreacting then it is good to have you to keep things balanced.

This war and such is certainly something to be serious about. Xeon is often humorous but this war is not something to be humorous about.

It is frustrating for me that so many people are against the war but part of my frustration is because I understand that people are justified in questioning the war. It is also frustrating that people are so quick to assume that Bush is wrong. It is also frustrating that people are so quick to criticize them, since they have reason to question the war.

Again, I sincerely hope there will soon be a day when the world realizes that the world will be a better palce for what is being done.

[Mick]

Originally posted by Sam Hobbs
I am probably not taking him as seriously as you might think. However if I am overreacting then it is good to have you to keep things balanced.

This war and such is certainly something to be serious about. Xeon is often humorous but this war is not something to be humorous about.

It is frustrating for me that so many people are against the war but part of my frustration is because I understand that people are justified in questioning the war. It is also frustrating that people are so quick to assume that Bush is wrong. It is also frustrating that people are so quick to criticize them, since they have reason to question the war.

Again, I sincerely hope there will soon be a day when the world realizes that the world will be a better palce for what is being done.

I support my troops...I don't support Bush...Your right, egg is going to be wiped off the face world wide, but then it just might be some conspiracy...just my opinion, I'd say I could be wrong, but well that's not likely ;)

[Xeon]

From Sam:

The day will probably come soon when the world will thank the leaders of the United States and other countries for having done what is beihng done. If so then there are many very scary secrets that we have not yet been told.


My! So, you're one of those who supports Bush! :eek::)

From Mick:

I think XeOn was being humorous...I would think so, given XeOn's previous (is it thousands?) posts. Some of us use sarcasam or humor...so lets not take things to heart I think XeOn was being humorous...I would think so, given XeOn's previous (is it thousands?) posts. Some of us use sarcasam or humor...so lets not take things to heart

Yes, right...Mick! :)
That was just a casual remark. :)

From Sam:

I should also add that I really do hope that the American (my) government and it's allies are doing the right thing. I hope that the good people of Iraq and it's neighbors will be grateful for liberating them. I am hopeful that by removing tyrany in Iraq that good people in that country and other countries in the world will prevail. There are governments in Iran, Korea, China and other places that will be weakend also and the good people will be strengthened. I am quite optimistic that the world will be a much better place without Saddam Hussein.

Actually, according to the news, more troops have die of friendly fire than anything! At least tens of Iraqi civilians are dying day by day from the war, and that's really sad, though! :(
There's this picture of a Iraqi child who's legs are in blood and the bone is exposed cos' of the blast by a US bomb, if I remember.

These children are crying for a lost mom or dad who die in the war and they feel so lost and alone.
Besides, on the US side, I'm sure the families of these soldiers are really sad too. Imagine seeing their sons bodies being "advertised" on Iraqi shows and.....ugh! More than that.

One mom has even pleaded with Bush to help her find her son's body, but given Bush's character......aye~! The mom might well as eat chicken chop instead. :)

The worse thing is : if this war drags on for months......you can imagine how many more Iraqi people are gonna die, which is logically more than the number Saddam usually kills for a past-time.

However, on the other hand, once the US succeeds in bringing joy to Iraq, the future generations of the Iraqi people(hopefully) will be much much better, that's for sure. But if the Iraqi resistance is so strong that Bush and his troops are tried of going on anymore and he stops just there, then everything is gonna be a total waste and go down the drain.

I guess since the war has started and so many civilians has been killed, the war might well as go all the way to the end to bring much awaited joy and happiness to Iraq. Of course, if Bush and his gang is after this main aim and not oil, then I would love him. :)

One more thing : does anyone know why the US has not used nuclear bombs on any one country after WW II?(the atomic bombs in Japan)
Is it because of costs? Human lives?Or can it bring about doomsday?! :eek::D

[Mick]

Originally posted by Xeon
The worse thing is : if this war drags on for months......you can imagine how many more Iraqi people are gonna die, which is logically more than the number Saddam usually kills for a past-time.


Time to bring out the nukes, we got alot of catching up to do...your logic is deranged :) Or are you Saddams buddy :) :) :)

[Sam Hobbs]

Originally posted by Xeon
My! So, you're one of those who supports Bush!Yes, and I hope I am not disappointed.
Originally posted by Xeon
At least tens of Iraqi civilians are dying day by day from the war, and that's really sad, though!Yes very sad. It is very unfortunate. There are many explanations for the deaths. I hope everyone knows that Iraqi troops are intentionally killing Iraqi troops that surrender or that won't fight for Iraq. I hope everyone also knows that the United States and our allies are doing the best they can to protect innocent Iraqis.
Originally posted by Xeon
One mom has even pleaded with Bush to help her find her son's body, but given Bush's character......aye~! The mom might well as eat chicken chop instead. :)I hope you don't really believe that. Please don't even joke like that.

Originally posted by Xeon
The worse thing is : if this war drags on for months......you can imagine how many more Iraqi people are gonna die, which is logically more than the number Saddam usually kills for a past-time.I hope this war will not drag on that long and I think it is very unlikely it will. I think our attack is proceeding quite close to the schedule the military specialists have decided upon. Note that the new moon occurs at 10:20 PM (Iraqi time) on April first. It is very likely that they intend to use that to their advantage and they seem to be quite on schedule for that.
Originally posted by Xeon
However, on the other hand, once the US succeeds in bringing joy to Iraq, the future generations of the Iraqi people(hopefully) will be much much better, that's for sure.I hope this is a more accurate representation of the real Xeon!
Originally posted by Xeon
But if the Iraqi resistance is so strong that Bush and his troops are tried of going on anymore and he stops just there, then everything is gonna be a total waste and go down the drain.Our government is commited. We will prevail.
Originally posted by Xeon
I guess since the war has started and so many civilians has been killed, the war might well as go all the way to the end to bring much awaited joy and happiness to Iraq. Of course, if Bush and his gang is after this main aim and not oil, then I would love him. :)If you suspect that Bush wants to capture Iraq to steal oil, then you misunderstand. Bush and our government and our allies want to liberate Iraq and provide them the ability to use their oil for their happiness. Of course we don't want a dictator to be in control that uses the world's dependence on oil to rule the world. It is definitely in our interest to prevent that. We also assume that a democratic and grateful Iraq (and neighboring countries) will be appreciative and that they will choose to show their appreciation in their sales of oil to us. But we should not make that a requirement; we should be able to trust that good people will do that just because it is the right thing to do. I think and hope that this war is occuring becuase it is the right thing to do.

[Sam Hobbs]

I want to emphasize that I totally beleive that Bush is totally sincere about this being the right thing to do for the world.

[Sam Hobbs]

Originally posted by Mick_2002
Time to bring out the nukes, we got alot of catching up to do...your logic is deranged :) Or are you Saddams buddy :) :) :)That's good fuel for the fire.

[Mick]

Originally posted by Sam Hobbs
That's good fuel for the fire.

I like combustible things :) Tired of anti-us drool, and people speaking out for uhh goverments that haven't done a thing :) My gov has done more than yours has neaner neaner...blah drool uneductated drivel. They had a peace rally today, a fight broke out...

[Gabriel Fleseriu]

Xeon, Mick:

Please keep such discussions out of the VC++ forum.

Sam:

Thank you for moving the discussion to the Chit Chat forum.

[Simon666]

Originally posted by Mick_2002
Time to bring out the nukes, we got alot of catching up to do...your logic is deranged :) Or are you Saddams buddy :) :) :)
I hope you were not srious about that one. I alreay told Bush could never fire nukes even if the Iraqi's use chemical/biological weapons. Using nukes would:


Kill countless civilians showing that the US really does not intend to free the Iraqi people or is in any way concerned about them.
Show to the rest of the world that the biggest threat as far as the use of WMD is concerned is George W. Bush, as the chemical weapons probably would kill only very little US soldiers as they have the best equipment for this kind of warfare, and as they probably would not be effective either due to the current weather situation. Making a biological weapon work on the battlefield is even to US experts considered as difficult.
It certainly would upset the people in Saudi Arabia and lead to revolts throughout the Arab world, which would stop oil deliveries and soar oil prices to an economy destroying 80$ per barrel or more.
Would piss muslims around the world making you hated and favorite target for countless terrorist attacks for pretty much the rest of the century.
Could ensure North Korea does the same with desastrous consequences. Not to mention what would happen in Pakistan, you would not even want to think about that.

[Mick]

Originally posted by Gabriel Fleseriu
Xeon, Mick:

Please keep such discussions out of the VC++ forum.

Sam:

Thank you for moving the discussion to the Chit Chat forum.

Your right, and I should have deleted it. I just followed Sam's link, but then I have an excuse for everything :) :) :)

[Mick]

Originally posted by Simon666

I hope you were not srious about that one. I alreay told Bush could never fire nukes even if the Iraqi's use chemical/biological weapons. Using nukes would:


Kill countless civilians showing that the US really does not intend to free the Iraqi people or is in any way concerned about them.
Show to the rest of the world that the biggest threat as far as the use of WMD is concerned is George W. Bush, as the chemical weapons probably would kill only very little US soldiers as they have the best equipment for this kind of warfare, and as they probably would not be effective either due to the current weather situation. Making a biological weapon work on the battlefield is even to US experts considered as difficult.
It certainly would upset the people in Saudi Arabia and lead to revolts throughout the Arab world, which would stop oil deliveries and soar oil prices to an economy destroying 80$ per barrel or more.
Would piss muslims around the world making you hated and favorite target for countless terrorist attacks for pretty much the rest of the century.
Could ensure North Korea does the same with desastrous consequences. Not to mention what would happen in Pakistan, you would not even want to think about that.


Of course I am not serious. If we use nukes even if twiddle uses his supposed WMD...I'll be right beside you in the die in's..

[aio]

Originally posted by Mick_2002


I support my troops...I don't support Bush...

How is that? Let your troops fight without there Commander-In-chief? Or encourage them to dis-obey their Commander-In-Chief?

I believe America lost in Vietnam because it's citizens support their troops (I pressume) but not ther leaders.

[Mick]

Originally posted by aio


How is that? Let your troops fight without there Commander-In-chief? Or encourage them to dis-obey their Commander-In-Chief?

I believe America lost in Vietnam because it's citizens support their troops (I pressume) but not ther leaders.

Who says we lost :) After all it wasn't our 'war', but just another bail out for a certain country :) :) :)

The leftist anti-war movement sponsered/encouraged by hmm what? Media...

But lets cut to the chase. When I say I don't support Bush, understand what I mean. I don't support his policies at all. Nor the weasel Clinton, nor Bush Sr (though he seemed slightly less moronic)....Regean I kinda liked at least you knew where you stood with him.

[Sam Hobbs]

Originally posted by aio
How is that? Let your troops fight without there Commander-In-chief? Or encourage them to dis-obey their Commander-In-Chief?Let him have his opinion. Let him make it very clear. History will show what Bush's true intent is and I think there will soon be much stronger support of Bush.

[Mick]

Originally posted by Sam Hobbs
Let him have his opinion. Let him make it very clear. History will show what Bush's true intent is and I think there will soon be much stronger support of Bush.

Stronger support of Bush? I hope not :) I don't disagree with what he is doing in regards to Iraq. I disagree with a majority of his policies...

It seems like people are defending SH. Kurds and Shities can't be wrong can they? But that's again just my opinion ;)

[Sam Hobbs]

Originally posted by Mick_2002
I don't disagree with what he is doing in regards to Iraq. I disagree with a majority of his policies...Very good. I think that clarifies things. So you support what Bush, our government, our allies and the troops are doining in Iraq. I think that answers the question that aio had about how it is possible to support the troops but not Bush.

[CBasicNet]

Originally posted by Mick_2002


Time to bring out the nukes, we got alot of catching up to do...your logic is deranged :) Or are you Saddams buddy :) :) :)

That's because Xeon never given these issues any deep thought.

But if you ask him about chicken chop and girls, it would be a totally different matter; He is a supposedly acknowledged expert on these topics.:D

[galathaea]

Originally posted by Mick_2002
After all it wasn't our 'war', but just another bail out for a certain country
By that, do you mean the country of the many industrial companies that made a killing during Vietnam, the same ones who sponsored the elections of most of the warhawks of that period, and in which many of our senators and presidents had stock in? Maybe I've been studying the stock graphs of those time too much lately and reading to many conspiracy theories, but the correlation then was as surprising as it is today with Halliburton and WorldComm...
Also posted by Mick_2002
It seems like people are defending SH. Kurds and Shities can't be wrong can they? But that's again just my opinion
Well, I see Saddam Hussein much like I see many of the money-hungry leaders of our modern world. Even France and Germany seem to be taking their sides because of money. The whole world is just going into a feeding frenzy right now, and the poor ignorant people of the world who lack any education are being lead by their leaders into some outrageous positions. Let us not forget that the reason Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in the first placewas because Kuwait had for some time been cross-drilling down into Iraqi substrata and taking oil from Iroqi owned lands. Saddam even gave a series of ultimatum to Kuwaitis to cease their exploitation of his economy. I in no way support this guys actions, but it seems he did what the US would have done in a similar circumstance, and it at least explains his actions of destroying Kuwaiti fields in his retreat without any need to dehumanize the Saddam regime. The demonization (oh they're just evil I tell you, EVIL!!!) of any group of people is one of the worst consequences of war.

[Mick]

Originally posted by CBasicNet


That's because Xeon never given these issues any deep thought.

But if you ask him about chicken chop and girls, it would be a totally different matter; He is a supposedly acknowledged expert on these topics.:D

There is much to be said for settling things over a plate of chicken chop. As far as the girls are concerned...well I'll just keep my mouth (fingers) shut on that one...Gabrieal would be admonishing me faster than you can say...inflatable.

[Mick]

Originally posted by galathaea

By that, do you mean the country of the many industrial companies that made a killing during Vietnam, the same ones who sponsored the elections of most of the warhawks of that period, and in which many of our senators and presidents had stock in? Maybe I've been studying the stock graphs of those time too much lately and reading to many conspiracy theories, but the correlation then was as surprising as it is today with Halliburton and WorldComm...


Was refering to the french indochina war actually. But I can only read about vietnam I was still pulling my toy turtle around and drooling around that time...hmm wait I still do that, not a good example... :) :) :)


Well, I see Saddam Hussein much like I see many of the money-hungry leaders of our modern world. Even France and Germany seem to be taking their sides because of money. The whole world is just going into a feeding frenzy right now, and the poor ignorant people of the world who lack any education are being lead by their leaders into some outrageous positions. Let us not forget that the reason Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in the first placewas because Kuwait had for some time been cross-drilling down into Iraqi substrata and taking oil from Iroqi owned lands. Saddam even gave a series of ultimatum to Kuwaitis to cease their exploitation of his economy. I in no way support this guys actions, but it seems he did what the US would have done in a similar circumstance, and it at least explains his actions of destroying Kuwaiti fields in his retreat without any need to dehumanize the Saddam regime. The demonization (oh they're just evil I tell you, EVIL!!!) of any group of people is one of the worst consequences of war.

I've noticed that. Upset with your current portfolio?

[aio]

I think it is time of crisis that we need to support our leaders most, wether we like them or not. That way they only have (at least) to worry about the crisis.:cool:

I began to admire this Mr. Bush as I always admire a man that is so decisive. He does what he think is right (although I may disagree with what he believe is right) no matter what the implications might be in the next election. Unlike your former Mr. Clinton, capable only of controversial decisions at a time when he knows he won't (or can't) face election again.

;) ;) ;)

[Xeon]

From CBasic.net:

That's because Xeon never given these issues any deep thought.
But if you ask him about chicken chop and girls, it would be a totally different matter; He is a supposedly acknowledged expert on these topics.


From Mick:

There is much to be said for settling things over a plate of chicken chop. As far as the girls are concerned...well I'll just keep my mouth (fingers) shut on that one...Gabrieal would be admonishing me faster than you can say...inflatable.

The thing now is : if Bush and his gang are all girls and Saddam Hussein is a cute middle-eastern babe too......aye~! All these wouldn't have happened. :):)

Anyway.....it seems that if you start any thread on the war in Iraq, it's gonna balloon into a giant. :D:D

[Sam Hobbs]

Originally posted by Xeon
Anyway.....it seems that if you start any thread on the war in Iraq, it's gonna balloon into a giant. :D:D Yes. Notice that I started this thread in response to your comments in the VC forum, which is not the appropriate place for such comments. You are certainly correct that the comments are likely to be numerous and making such comments in the VC forum means that either that forum gets a bunch of irrelevant comments or other people are inhibited from participating. Note that in a forum such as the VC forum other people are likely to resent off-topic comments such as these since they voluntarily choose to not participate but resent not being able to.

[Tom Frohman]

Originally posted by Xeon
Anyway.....it seems that if you start any thread on the war in Iraq, it's gonna balloon into a giant. :D:D

Boring, Sidney....Boring

[SolarFlare]

Sam - haven't seen you in this forum since... never. Now you're posting everywhere here and even starting threads! Slow day in the "real" programming forums?

[Xeon]

From Sam:

Yes. Notice that I started this thread in response to your comments in the VC forum, which is not the appropriate place for such comments. You are certainly correct that the comments are likely to be numerous and making such comments in the VC forum means that either that forum gets a bunch of irrelevant comments or other people are inhibited from participating. Note that in a forum such as the VC forum other people are likely to resent off-topic comments such as these since they voluntarily choose to not participate but resent not being able to.

From what I see, there's a halo of Light emitting from Sam??!! :eek:
His time is up??!! Saint Sam???!!! :eek:
His words.....my heart feels so warm and comfortable......alas.....by the way, Sam pal...it's high time you replace Yves M as the SuperModerator, don't you agree? :D

I wonder why Brad never said anything about this. :)

From Solar:

Sam - haven't seen you in this forum since... never. Now you're posting everywhere here and even starting threads! Slow day in the "real" programming forums?

Nah, Solar! :p
Anyway, I do really wish to invite and welcome folks who have never posted much in the General Discussion forum to do so.
This is da' place to lose all your ego, earn ego points occasionally, be darn, have a war once and now, be real childish and naive, be totally funny and such.
Remember : this forum is where gods become clowns and babies become kings. :cool:

[Sam Hobbs]

Originally posted by solarflare
Slow day in the "real" programming forums? No, these are fast times for freedom in the world and I am excited.

[SolarFlare]

Originally posted by Sam Hobbs
No, these are fast times for freedom in the world and I am excited.
Cool :cool:

[Xeon]

From Sam:

No, these are fast times for freedom in the world and I am excited.


U must be refering to how Bush is gonna free the Iraqi people, Sam! :):)
While I've some reservations about this kinda views...I think it's better to wait and adopt a wait-and-see attitude. But maybe you've been eating too much Bush cornflakes, reading too much war games magazines and absorbing Bush-style marketing every morning. :D:D

No no.....just my personal opinion; after all, Bush believes in freedom and I really can't wait to see what's Madonna's upcoming "American Life" album like.
The news even report that this album will feature her throwing a grenade onto the laps of a Bush-look-alike actor and the latter picks up the grenade and lit it for his cigar. :D:D

[Sam Hobbs]

There is not a person in the world except me that knows how much I want to make the world a better place. Governments such as the Iraqi government is certainly affecting the whole world. I think when Saddam Hussein is out of the way other dictators will be less of a threat to the world and more cooperative with us. I think there will be a dominoe affect. We will very soon push the big Saddam Hussein dominoe, causing many other dominoes tumbling in our favor for the liberation of the world.

If anyone thinks that George Bush is so powerful to have accomplished all he is doing just to benefit his country then he sure must be very poweful. He has the United States government and many other very powerful governments on his side. Those that truly believe he is doing all this simply because he is so powerful are being quite apathetic. Perhaps he is taking advantage of apathy in the world, but I doubt that.

I think people are negative just because there is so much negativity and unhappiness in the world. That is frustrating for me but I understand that the problem is more systemic than individual, so individuals can't be blamed too much nor expected to understand.

People have many interpersonal relationship problems that have easy solutions. I hope I can help solve the problems some day.

Oh and it is difficult for me to respect Madonna because the only way the world knows who she is is because she has developed a reputation for being bad. That is not the kind of person I respect. Not that anything she has done is that bad but I just don't want to admire a person for beihng that way.

[Xeon]

From Sam:

There is not a person in the world except me that knows how much I want to make the world a better place. Governments such as the Iraqi government is certainly affecting the whole world. I think when Saddam Hussein is out of the way other dictators will...

Well, I do hope things turn for the better. There's no point arguing over such frustrating things! :):)
I had rather discuss about girls and other nice things. :)

It's 2:15 PM here and I still haven't have my tasty lunch. :):D

[Wfranc]

Okay, go get something for lunch...:)

[SolarFlare]

I hope that by now you've had your lunch ;).

[Xeon]

From WFranc:

Okay, go get something for lunch...

From Solar:[

I hope that by now you've had your lunch


Argh! I'm so touched! :D:D
I can understand that WFranc is cite, emotional and caring, but Solar??!! The sun is gonna rise from the South today! :D:D
Or maybe.....Solar has become a Saint?! Saint Xeon, Saint Sam and now Saint Solar?! :D:cool:

[SolarFlare]

Originally posted by Xeon
Argh! I'm so touched! :D:D
I can understand that WFranc is cite, emotional and caring, but Solar??!! The sun is gonna rise from the South today! :D:D
Or maybe.....Solar has become a Saint?! Saint Xeon, Saint Sam and now Saint Solar?! :D:cool:
I accept this title with honor, O noble Xeon. ;):D

[galathaea]

Just wanted to appologize to Xeon here if I have ever disappointed him. This is also for all the times in the future I may disappoint him. If anyone has any ways I could potentially disappoint Xeon, PM me ASAP, with details...

[Xeon]

From Solar:

I accept this title with honor, O noble Xeon.


That's right, Solar! After all these decades, you finally have become smarter and wiser. I'm so happy! Yes, true. To celebrate all these, I'm offering the Moderator guys a platinum protection package against flames and abuse by ordinary members.
Prices start at US$6000. In addition, you get a tub of Dryer's ice-cream and 2 free girls each. You can also customize the location of these girls. Your choice! :D:D

From Galathaea:

Just wanted to appologize to Xeon here if I have ever disappointed him. This is also for all the times in the future I may disappoint him. If anyone has any ways I could potentially disappoint Xeon, PM me ASAP, with details...


But......since when have you disappointed me, O' mate?! :eek::eek:
My Galathaea....maybe you've been going ga-ga over the Iraqi war? :):)

Anyway, the news reported that several more Iraqi civilians(innocent, not suicide bombers) have been killed in gunfire and air-bombings. Aye~! :(:o

[Jewe]

The iraq war is a big problem for the following reasons.

1.) The people from iraq shoot back. (this was not planned by the v.s (one week??))

2.) A lot of iraq soldiers are stationed near holly places.
meaning that if america hits one of these places they will be
in a holly war. and they will lose this war. ( 1 american again
30 moslim).

3.) If the oil fields are hit, america has no profit.
and its all about the money, why else recreut a new
goverment?

4.) Major point : this war states again that nobody is free.
Ask yourself, how raw/real is the information you get?
It is not, its always filtered. you always hear the info
from one side.

5.) If a small group can fly in to two buildings, its likely for
saddam to have a nuke stationed somewhere in the u.s.
Ready to go off.

6.) Everything is allowed in war and love....

7.) Rules for the world, are for everybody except america.
(international court, america wants to bring people in but
does not allow americans to be jugded)

Life life to the max, before you know it you get nuked or get
a long infection.

Later,

Jewe

[Elrond]

Originally posted by Sam Hobbs
...
It is definitely in our interest to prevent that. We also assume that a democratic and grateful Iraq (and neighboring countries) will be appreciative and that they will choose to show their appreciation in their sales of oil to us. But we should not make that a requirement; we should be able to trust that good people will do that just because it is the right thing to do. I think and hope that this war is occuring becuase it is the right thing to do.

I hope they will be able to choose. Usually, the first governement that is installed after the war has not that latitude to choose what he wants to do. The first contracts will probably be given to the US more becvause of the governement the US has choosen than because of what the Iraqi people want.

[Elrond]

Originally posted by Sam Hobbs
I should also add that I really do hope that the American (my) government and it's allies are doing the right thing. I hope that the good people of Iraq and it's neighbors will be grateful for liberating them. I am hopeful that by removing tyrany in Iraq that good people in that country and other countries in the world will prevail. There are governments in Iran, Korea, China and other places that will be weakend also and the good people will be strengthened. I am quite optimistic that the world will be a much better place without Saddam Hussein.

I am not sure about that.

A lot of world leaders think that this war may stengthen fundamentalists and create 100s of Bin Laden. If that happens, it would be the opposite of what Bush says is fighting for.

I just hope it will not happen.

[Aleqv]

To celebrate all these, I'm offering the Moderator guys a platinum protection package against flames and abuse by ordinary members. Prices start at US$6000. In addition, you get a tub of Dryer's ice-cream and 2 free girls each. You can also customize the location of these girls. Your choice!
Have you ever shown up in some commercial ads on telly ? like Jacky Chan in some gyms equip shows:D:D ? I think SOlarflre would be happy with such cheap price and those tips, really nice:D
But......since when have you disappointed me, O' mate?!
My Galathaea....maybe you've been going ga-ga over the Iraqi war
I think galathaea seis once now but that gona get valid forever...:D, galathaea really kind and courteus....Anyway admirable ...:D
It really hard to get you down, Xeon ;):D:D

[SolarFlare]

Originally posted by Jewe
4.) Major point : this war states again that nobody is free.
Ask yourself, how raw/real is the information you get?
It is not, its always filtered. you always hear the info
from one side.

That's why I wanted to have the "war developments" thread. Then the news we heard would at least be closer to the truth. But nobody seemed to like this idea... :(

[Elrond]

Originally posted by solarflare

That's why I wanted to have the "war developments" thread. Then the news we heard would at least be closer to the truth. But nobody seemed to like this idea... :(

The problem is that 95% of the info could be viewed as propaganda or lies by one or the other. The result is that no info is really accepted nicely... :(

[Xeon]

From Aleq:

Have you ever shown up in some commercial ads on telly ? like Jacky Chan in some gyms equip shows ? I think SOlarflre would be happy with such cheap price and those tips, really nice


Nah, Aleq! :) Yes, I've seen Jackie in one of these gym ads, but anyway, who cares about the man?! :D
The thing is to focus on the girls featured sometimes in these ads instead. I'm never impressed with female celebrities, but their physical form is really among the best kind of art in the world. Get the meaning? :):D


I think galathaea seis once now but that gona get valid forever..., galathaea really kind and courteus....Anyway admirable ...
It really hard to get you down, Xeon

Nah, Aleq! It depends on every single indivivual. For me, my temper goes down very soon even if I'm very very berserk and angry at certain things, but I can't stand Xtreme hypocrites, though. These guys suck up to you when they need you, and when they don't need you anymore, they don't give a d@mn to you and tries to be nasty! :o

Although I suck up to some folks here, these are merely for fun and not real flattering. :)

By the Aleq....is your name Alex? Cos' Aleq seems kinda weird. :D

[Mick]

Originally posted by Xeon
From Aleq:
For me, my temper goes down very soon even if I'm very very berserk and angry at certain things


Somehow seeing you angry XeOn makes me giggle to no end....a tazmanina devil in a flurry, chicken chop flying everywhere, women and children cowering covering their eyes...quick get the girl pictures or he'll transform to OmNiXeOn (tm)

[SolarFlare]

Yeah, I can see RoBoTiC AcTiOn PoTaTo HeAd XeOn saying "Don't make me get my angry eyes..."

[Xeon]

From Mick:

Somehow seeing you angry XeOn makes me giggle to no end....a tazmanina devil in a flurry, chicken chop flying everywhere, women and children cowering covering their eyes...quick get the girl pictures or he'll transform to OmNiXeOn (tm)

Nah! That'll never happen, Mick! In fact, I've never been berserk since about 1 - 2 years ago, cos' since then, I've learned to put up with everything and be at peace with myself. Gentlemen! Ladies! This is the highest level of the Mastery of the Mind, of the Zen! :):D

From Solar:

Yeah, I can see RoBoTiC AcTiOn PoTaTo HeAd XeOn saying "Don't make me get my angry eyes...

U must be talking about yourself, Solar! :D Even your avatar resembles a spiral potato head! :D Argh! :D

[SolarFlare]

Originally posted by Xeon
U must be talking about yourself, Solar! :D Even your avatar resembles a spiral potato head! :D Argh! :D
Cool, and so it does ;).

[Mick]

Originally posted by Xeon
From Mick:
Nah! That'll never happen, Mick! In fact, I've never been berserk since about 1 - 2 years ago, cos' since then, I've learned to put up with everything and be at peace with myself. Gentlemen! Ladies! This is the highest level of the Mastery of the Mind, of the Zen! :):D


Been there for years, it's amusing what other people will get upset about, I like amusing myself

So welcome to the machine.