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George1111
March 8th, 2008, 05:32 AM
With ASP.Net we use VS2005
What is the best editor to use with ASP ? (NOT DOT NET)
Thanks
(I am just starting a new project and learning ASP at the same time and have never done anything in ASP before)
Shuja Ali
March 8th, 2008, 03:41 PM
Classic ASP as it is known as does not need a designer typically. You can use Visual Studio 2003 or else if you don't have one, just use Notepad. :)
But why use Classic ASP, when you can utilize so many good things in ASP.NET.
George1111
March 9th, 2008, 07:48 AM
I would love to use ASP.Net but am having trouble finding a free/low cost application generator for VS2005
All those that I have found have been for VS2003 and never convert projects to VS2005 successfully
I am now considering buying Ironspeed (www.ironspeed.com) which looks great for getting a head start in generating ASP pages
I don't want to make a web site - rather an application which will run over the web
Have you any ideas on what tool would be best to use ?
ASP.Net sounds like the best fit, but I just keep hitting brick walls with all the rapid developers I have been trying to assess
It makes more sense to go with ASP.Net as I am starting to learn ASP from scratch - Plain ASP just looks easier to understand
Appreciate your help, thanks
Shuja Ali
March 9th, 2008, 11:18 AM
Have you checked Visual web Developer Express? Visual Web Developer Express 2008 is free and can be downloaded from MSDN. It contains almost all the functionality that you would need to develop a Web Application.
George1111
March 10th, 2008, 05:32 AM
I have Visual Studio 2005 (which incudes ASP.net of course)
How is the difference between creating a website in VS2005 compared to VS Express 2008 ?
Yeorwned
March 10th, 2008, 02:46 PM
Unless your programming in .net 3.5, you don't need VSD08. If you want an editor that will recognize tags in ASP, try Notepad++. Notepad++ is the superior choice for many languages...
Shuja Ali
March 11th, 2008, 02:06 AM
I have Visual Studio 2005 (which incudes ASP.net of course)
How is the difference between creating a website in VS2005 compared to VS Express 2008 ?
It is just that 2008 is latest and will have more features like LINQ, etc.
HanneSThEGreaT
March 11th, 2008, 10:02 AM
I'm with Shuja on this one. Use the Visual Web Developer Express. IMHO, try the 2005 one, then, steadily learn the 2008 one, that's what I'd do. fact of the matter is, use the Visual Web Developer Express - really, a great tool :thumb:
PeejAvery
March 11th, 2008, 10:52 AM
Agree! :thumb:
I know this has been covered well, but to add to these thoughts...Visual Studio Express elements are geared towards simplicity with efficiency. Unless you are making this for a large corporation, you will probably not require any tools from a non-Express edition.
George1111
March 11th, 2008, 12:45 PM
Thanks guys
Can I install Visual Studio 2008 Express and still keep my VS 2005 running ?
Yeorwned
March 11th, 2008, 01:22 PM
Yes. It will have no effect.
Shuja Ali
March 11th, 2008, 02:55 PM
Yes you can. I have VS 2003, 2005 and 2008 installed on my system and everything works perfectly.
Although once you get VS 2008, you wouldn't need VS 2005 because with VS 2008 you can develop applications on framework 2.0, 3.0 and 3.5.
Edit
I actually wrote 3005 instead of 2005. Seems like my time machine has finally started working :D:p
George1111
March 12th, 2008, 07:01 AM
Say I have developed a data aware application using VB.Net 2005, using traditional "Select * from Table Using ....." type coding, with normal VB.Net Forms and I now want to make the application run as a web application, what do I do ?
ie, Can a VB.Net 2005 application be "converted" to an ASP.net application retaining all its functionality (and forms functionality) ?
Thanks
Shuja Ali
March 12th, 2008, 08:02 AM
If your Winforms application is designed properly then I woudl say you just have to change the Presentation Layer, however if your database logic is written within the presentation layer then the amount of work that you will have to do increases.
Ideally you should modify your Winforms application to abstract the Data Access Layer and then use that data access layer in you ASP.NET application.
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