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    What Do You Think Of Pornography?

    Hi guys, i Just want to see opinions from computer professionals about this matter. Some people might hate it while others might NOT hate it..

    As my prsonal opinion, I think it is seriously dangerous for human expeciall men and kids.. I heard lots of true stories about men who lost their mariage, family and love because of prono addictions.. even from my closest friends and family (most people won't tell, but we know when we are very close to them) I also think that most prons are a disgrace to the woman, because how woman are manipulated and used as a mere tools for sex, with no respect!

    There is a talk show here in my country, and the guy(phsycologist) said there are mitos about porn that men believes is true, that is that woman actually loves how they are treated in the porn movies, but in reality, majority of woman hates it...!!! And I believe Him (th psycologist..)

    So, I'm hoping if you guys could give opinion on this matter.. Is you country have any pron web blocking or is it provided by the service provider or it is up to individual to choose whether to block or not..

    My idea is to let the Goverment to post a law to block this kind of stuff... this matter has already went to our HIGH LEVEL MINISTERS ATTENTION and, i guess they would com up with something good soon, expecially our new PM is very honest, democratic, people friendly and religious... Thusbs Up to PAK LAH
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    Re: What Do You Think Of Pornography?

    http://www.sydneyanglicans.net/commu...pic.php?t=1282

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...353212143.html

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/miranda-d...353539758.html

    http://www.settingcaptivesfree.com/


    etc etc etc

    It's a huge problem out there and no one is safe. No family can protect their kids eyes. It is in our homes. It is efficient. It is degrading and it is filth. It creates mental problems in people and who knows what the future generations sexual abuse & divorce statistics are going to be because of this.
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    Re: What Do You Think Of Pornography?

    ?

    Maybe some are not really good especially that movies which dispise women in their humanity.

    But i dont think that some kind of erotic movies are "seriously dangerous for human", because sex is a normal and natural thing and i also think there is no reason to hide that in your everyday life.
    Compare to that thread apout the "Hot-Coffee-Mod-Thread" about GTA-San Andreas, I think that in some countries the public still can not handle their sexuality in a reasonably way.

    And no kid will be harmed if it sees some breasts in a tv-spot or at the beach....
    (so in my country this is allowed ..)
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    Re: What Do You Think Of Pornography?

    So, you would be ok to see your own daughter flaunting her stuff in a magazine one day?
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    Re: What Do You Think Of Pornography?

    My opinion is: (Now I'm trying to be serious, so bear with me)

    I disagree totally thooomy. My sister and her kid lives in my house, her son is 8 years old. If we get a chance to watch a dvd, everyone watches. 7 out of 10 movies have either sex scenes in it, or talks about some sexual terms, which I think is bad. Now the kid asks me waht does **** mean? What is ***? What are they doing now?

    I honestly don't want to explain it to him.

    Now you might say:
    Why do I let the kid watch the movies.
    My reply: If I knew that those things were going to be in there, I would try to prevent him from watching.
    Now you might say there is a rating system on the movies. I agree.
    BUT, especially with the movies that talk about certain things, there is only a Language restriction.

    Face it, no one can stop the filth. But I just want a better rating system on the movies - or something so that I know what to expect in the movie and what not.

    I hope you see my point.

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    Re: What Do You Think Of Pornography?

    Quote Originally Posted by HanneSThEGreaT

    I honestly don't want to explain it to him.
    Why not ?

    Someday, he learn it anyway.. (if it is with 10 or 12 ... )

    Did he never saw his mother naked in the bathroom or something ?
    Do you think that this is dangerous ?
    I think it is really important that a kid learn about men and woman, particularly in big cities, where young teens have their first sex at the age of 14 or even younger... parents who dont tell their kids about sex cannot prevent them of getting pregnant or to teach them how safer sex works....
    .. okay i am getting off-topic

    Porn is absolutely nothing for kids... i totally agree about that...

    but a tv-spot where you can see a naked torso of woman in a shower
    NOT a problem ...why it should be ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Deniz
    So, you would be ok to see your own daughter flaunting her stuff in a magazine one day?
    i dont WANT to see her in a magazine .... but i dont think that it is dangerous for other people..
    and if its art (yes ... it dont have to be porn if there are naked people on pictures) it would not disturb me
    EDIT: if she is old enough !
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    Thumbs up Re: What Do You Think Of Pornography?

    All i would say :
    "Its Pretty Abstract and Uniquely dependent on one's perception on it"


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    Just try to avoid those contents from the underage as much as you can .. ;-P

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    Re: What Do You Think Of Pornography?

    Quote Originally Posted by thooomy
    Why not ?

    Someday, he learn it anyway.. (if it is with 10 or 12 ... )
    Perhaps true, but I would prefer a much older age, where he actually understands the consequences of his actions

    Quote Originally Posted by thooomy
    Did he never saw his mother naked in the bathroom or something ?
    Do you think that this is dangerous ?
    No
    Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by thooomy
    I think it is really important that a kid learn about men and woman, particularly in big cities, where young teens have their first sex at the age of 14 or even younger... parents who dont tell their kids about sex cannot prevent them of getting pregnant or to teach them how safer sex works....
    That's exactly my point! pregnant at 14!! How will the parents of the baby support the baby????????

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    Re: What Do You Think Of Pornography?

    @Thoomy : yes, sex is normal thing, but violence, disgrace and exploitations in every porn is NOT normal..

    well, an growing kids are most curious.. 8 years old see naked woman, 10 watch porn, 12 do it yourself...

    ok, there are good porns you say? lets avoid all the BAD porn and use the GOOD porn, can you promise me one day you won't go for the BAD porn?? can you make your kids promise that??

    Youre talking about prgnancy at early age (14) is a bad thing, i'm saying sex at the age of 14 is dangerous.. I don't know how in your country (where ar you from??) but in my country, only if the girl or boy is 18 then only they can marry or have sex.. but most kids nowadays already breaking this tradition.. porns playd some role there... changing the tradition.. tradition we teach to have sex only when youre mature..

    @HannesTG

    well, obviously, we can't stop it, i don't know if all the CG members joins force to bring down all the porn webs, can we do it? no way..

    but its not impossible? still remember child porn? well I was still a kid then when the porn using childs are wide spread.. but I heard a lot of strories of how the US and many other Gov join force to bring down the child porn.. its still impossible?..


    /ps:

    porn has become like Ciggarates, its bad, but its a inevitable.. its even commercialized, people make money from it, big money.. soooo many people using it, it looks like nothing wrong, why not, its normal, normal cause everyone doing it....
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    Re: What Do You Think Of Pornography?

    sorry.. i do not have the time to answar all now... stay tuned

    so to this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Payne
    day you won't go for the BAD porn?? can you make your kids promise that??

    Youre talking about prgnancy at early age (14) is a bad thing, i'm saying sex at the age of 14 is dangerous.. I don't know how in your country (where ar you from??) but in my country, only if the girl or boy is 18 then only they can marry or have sex.. but most kids nowadays already breaking this tradition.. porns playd some role there... changing the tradition.. tradition we teach to have sex only when youre mature..
    so is this a law .. or a tradtition ?
    ... if it is a tradition I think then its not the only one which get lost in last hundred of years... time is changing everything.. and this a normal process and has nothing to do with porn...

    if it is a law then you have hundreds of thousands of criminal teenagers in country and i think thats not way to handle that.
    In my country (in germany) it is not illegal to have sex at the age of 15... ( why it schould be so if they are cleared up) ?
    ... its illegal to have sex with a teenager when you are an adult

    here it is legal to watch erotic movies at the age of 16 (erotic means: no genitals, or closups and sexual acts in detail)
    and marry at the same age (if the parants agree)
    And you should remember that most of our teenager today have their
    full sexual ripe (is "ripe" the right word her ?) at this age.
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    Re: What Do You Think Of Pornography?

    No, I don't like porn.

    I watched a TV special about a girls that did porno movies and others that were strippers. (Hey, I'm curious...) These women wanted to do it. They liked the money. A lot of them liked the attention. It's not like people are being forced into making these movies. And it's not like people are being forced to buy the products either. They might feel like they are, but anybody has the ability to walk away or ask someone to help them walk away. I do not think the government should ban porn. That's the whole big brother syndrome. If you don't like it, don't buy it. If you know there are going to be gratuitous scenes in a movie, don't show it to your kiddos.

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    IMHO: I do think that when your kids are asking you about sex you need to answer them. If you don't they'll keep asking till someone does. How you answer depends on their age. I mean, you're not going to want to explain the miracle of life in detail to a 5 year old... but again, that's all up to the parent/guardian.
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    Re: What Do You Think Of Pornography?

    Quote Originally Posted by gurleygirl
    I do think that when your kids are asking you about sex you need to answer them. If you don't they'll keep asking till someone does. How you answer depends on their age. I mean, you're not going to want to explain the miracle of life in detail to a 5 year old... but again, that's all up to the parent/guardian.
    Encyleopedia and Internet is more than enough... y bother the parents?
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    Re: What Do You Think Of Pornography?

    Quote Originally Posted by HanneSThEGreaT
    Face it, no one can stop the filth. But I just want a better rating system on the movies - or something so that I know what to expect in the movie and what not.
    I know you can't always tell by the rating what kind of content a movie has or even necessarily why it received its rating. However there are websites that break down the content of movies (some more restrictively than others) to give people an idea of what to expect in a movie. Most I have read do a good job of not spoiling the plot of a movie or if they do they try warn the reader beforehand. One that I have come to depend upon is this site which breaks down both positive and negative aspects of a movie from a rather conservative christian ethical standpoint.

    I don't think pornography is in anyway healthy for anyone neither those creating it nor those watching/looking at it. I have met/know of people who have become addicted to it and/or it has seriously affected them in a negative manner. I'm not certain on this, but I think I recall there was a medical study done that seemed to indicate that pornography was possibly the root of many sexual dysfunctions that are now "cured" by blue pills, etc.
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    Re: What Do You Think Of Pornography?

    A serious discussion in the CG chit-chat forums??? What's the world coming to...

    Quote Originally Posted by gurleygirl
    And it's not like people are being forced to buy the products either. They might feel like they are, but anybody has the ability to walk away or ask someone to help them walk away.
    Half the problem is this: porn often can be addictive and has the potential to ruin marriages, destroy families and cause serious mental issues. Walking away isn't easy and often by that time the damage is already done.

    The deterioration in western society is due to "teach kids how to have sex when they're 10 so they'll know what to do when they turn 12" attitude.

    IMHO any sex outside of marriage is wrong.

    One of the reasons I became a Christian was because when I read the Bible New Testament, I saw that it was the most amazing self-help and personal growth book out there you can find. Everything in it had excellent value and if everyone followed it we wouldn't have half the problems we have today. Although it is impossible for everyone to follow it because they simply won't, I choose to follow it now and I will teach my kids the same.

    How this relates to moral issues, the Bible teaches a man & a woman to be "friends" first. To have the ability to speak to each other, to relate to each other and to love each other without bringing sex into the equation. Sex is only there for 20 or so years in a marriage, what do you have left after that? The friendship.

    Relationships based purely on 'chemistry' or sexual compatibility leave not much else to fall back on. Why are there so many divorces when a man turns 50 and decides to 'upgrade' his wife for a younger one? Why don't people resolve problems by adressing the issues rather than resorting to 'make-up sex' as tv instructs us to do?

    And why is it ok for men to 'look at' other women they are not married to? Any advertisment is proof this is the norm. Looking at other women is defined by Jesus as commiting adultery in your heart. I didn't understand this until I started seeing the effects under careful observation of my own habits. Looking at other women with desire makes me compare my wife to the other woman, makes me jelous, envious, it makes me think 'I'm not as good because I'm not as rich/muscly/don't have the sculpted body/don't dress as well etc etc etc... It's not healthy. I suspect some of the readers of this would have felt the same at some stage in their lives.

    Porn, when brought into the equation makes the above effects tenfold. It makes us think that if we aren't having 'wild sex' every night with as many different women as possible (the more attractive the better) then we are losers. It causes depression through this as the above statement is unrealistic. And it causes addictive behavious (i.e. we look at porn to feel better).

    As for sex at the age of 14, even if they become 'ripe' at that age, who's to say these kids are at a mental age of maturity to make wise decisions? They are literally led into these acts thanks to porn, tv, movies, magazines, advertising, liberal teachers and alcohol. I would think a better option would be to have sex education at home, when the time is right, with less detail. Most sex education within the Christian community (as far as I can tell) is made through couples individual research when the time is near (i.e. when they are engaged) to be better prepared for their wedding night.

    My point is this: I think sex is for marriage only, we shouldn't even look at other women with wrongful desire (lust) in our hearts and this is exactly what I'll be teaching my kids. Each to their own I guess.
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    Re: What Do You Think Of Pornography?

    I don't have any problem with pornography, and don't understand why so many people think it to be so damaging. Certainly if you look at pornography and expect that your encounters with the opposite sex will be the same way, then you're in for a rough time when you venture out of your basement and start trying to form relationships with real, actual people. But however cynical I may be in some respects, I trust that most people are intelligent enough to make the distinction between fantasy and reality. If you can't, then pornography is the least of your problems. Do the people saying that pornography is bad for people, and especially the people saying that the government should ban it, hold the same view on, say, violence in movies? If not, why not? I can't comment on the rest of the world as I've lived in the US all my life, but I find it baffling that so much of our country seems to think that sex is bad, that seeing a naked human body will somehow damage us, particularly when, as Deniz pointed out, we're constantly bombarded with sexual content in advertising and popular media.

    I really don't care whether people think pornography is wrong or not. That's up to each person to decide; people beginning with different basic assumptions will come to different conclusions, even if each person's reasoning is sound. But I do care if said people attempt to transfer their beliefs into legislation. When it comes down to that, I think gurleygirl summed it up perfectly:
    Quote Originally Posted by gurleygirl
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