
March 22nd, 2009, 06:28 AM
#1
Newtons Method for Approximating Roots
Hi, i have this method here that approximates square roots. I was wondering what ppl thought about it and whether it is following a correct algorithm. It seems to work good and gave pretty close approximations for all my test casses. The only issue is on the very first call to the function, if 1 is passed in as a guess it returns bogus numbers.
Code:
/*
* Newtons Method for Approx. square roots.
* Accepts 2 doubles.
* Argument 1 is the number to take the square root of.
* Argument 2 is the approximation/guess of the square root.
* x = 1/2( x + A/x) < Formula being used.
*/
double approxSQRT(double A, double approx)
{
double previous=approx;
approx = (0.5)*(approx + ( A/approx));
//When sequential approximations have a negligable difference the
// approximation should be very close to the actual square root.
if(previous  approx < 0.0000001 )
return(approx);
return( approxSQRT(A,approx));
}

March 22nd, 2009, 06:30 AM
#2
Re: Newtons Method for Approximating Roots
The full driver prog.
Code:
/*
Gerald Eckert
Using Newtons Method for Approximating Roots
Formula.
x = 1/2( x + A/x)
x represents the square root or the approximation.
Continue running through this formula untill the
difference in sequential x values becomes negligable.
*/
#include <iostream>
using namespace std;
double approxSQRT(double,double);
int main()
{
double numA=0; // numA represents the number under the square root.
double guess=0; // guess represents the users guess at the square root.
double sqrt=0;
cout<<"Take the square root of what number? : ";
cin>>numA;
cout<<"Please take a guess at the square root of "<<numA<<" : ";
cin>>guess;
sqrt= approxSQRT(numA,guess);
cout<<"The square root of "<<numA<<" is approximatly "<< sqrt <<endl;
return(0);
}
/*
* Newtons Method for Approx. square roots.
* Accepts 2 doubles.
* Argument 1 is the number to take teh square root of.
* Argument 2 is the approximation/guess of the square root.
* x = 1/2( x + A/x) < Formula being used.
*/
double approxSQRT(double A, double approx)
{
double previous=approx;
approx = (0.5)*(approx + ( A/approx));
//When sequential approximations have a negligable difference the
// approximation should be very close to the actual square root.
if(previous  approx < 0.0000001 )
return(approx);
return( approxSQRT(A,approx));
}

March 22nd, 2009, 06:57 AM
#3
Re: Newtons Method for Approximating Roots
I was doing some more testing and found some weird bugs. The bugs pop up when a user would enter really bad guesses. Like if they guess 34030 for the square root of 125. If anyone knows the algorithm would you let me know if i am using it right. Thanks

March 22nd, 2009, 07:19 AM
#4
Re: Newtons Method for Approximating Roots
It returns bogus answers. Like I try approxSQRT(555 , 3) and it returns 94. Ill have to do the math by hand and see what is going on.

March 22nd, 2009, 07:27 AM
#5
Re: Newtons Method for Approximating Roots
Your program only works if the initial guess is above the result.
try
Code:
if(fabs(previous  approx) < 0.0000001 )
Kurt

March 22nd, 2009, 07:28 AM
#6
Re: Newtons Method for Approximating Roots
Ok, stupid error on my part.
Code:
approxSQRT(555 , 3)
use the formula
(1/2)*(3 + 555/3) = 94
find the difference
3  94 =  91
compare the difference
is 91 < 0.000001 //Should be using absolute value here.
XD..
I think using absolute value would solve the issue.
Thanks ZuK, was writing this when you replied

March 22nd, 2009, 08:04 AM
#7
Re: Newtons Method for Approximating Roots
It would make more sense to use an iterative method here, rather than recursion. With recursion it would be possible to get a stack overflow.
Try this instead:
Code:
double approxSQRT(double A, double approx)
{
double previous = 0.0;
do {
previous = approx;
approx = (0.5)*(approx + (A/approx));
} while( fabs(previous  approx) < 0.0000001 );
return approx;
}
Or you might want to change the while condition to keep going until the actual value is close enough to the square root, rather than just not changing by much, i.e.
Code:
while( fabs( (approx * approx)  A ) < some constant )

March 22nd, 2009, 10:29 AM
#8
Re: Newtons Method for Approximating Roots
This one may give you better performance, and it's generic and detects nonreal answers:
Code:
template<class T> static inline T root(T base, T root)
{
if((base < 0) && ((root % (T) 2)  1))
{
// Error: nonreal answer
return (T)0;
}
double Number = base / 2;
const double Tolerance = 1.0e7;
do Number = (Number + base / Number) / 2;
while(abs(pow(Number, (double)root)  base) > Tolerance);
return Number;
}
If you really want to wait for the user's input, though, it wouldn't be hard to add a third parameter to this one, which is the initial guess:
Code:
template<class T> static inline T root(T base, T root, double guess = 0.d)
{
if((base < 0) && ((root % (T) 2)  1))
{
// Error: nonreal answer
return (T)0;
}
if(guess == 0.d)
guess = base / 2;
const double Tolerance = 1.0e7;
do guess = (guess + base / guess) / 2;
while(abs(pow(guess, (double)root)  base) > Tolerance);
return guess;
}
Peter_B is absolutely right. It's not so much as a worry of stack overflow, but performance. For example, a recursive fibonacci function could take thousands of times longer than an iteration one, in very extreme situations
Last edited by Etherous; March 22nd, 2009 at 10:39 AM.
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March 23rd, 2009, 06:40 AM
#9
Re: Newtons Method for Approximating Roots
You should be able to automatically generate a decent first guess:
Quickly determine the number of digits and then use something like pow(10, (numberOfDigits1)/2) as the initial guess.
For example a value of 100 should give you 10 as the first guess which is exactly right.

March 23rd, 2009, 07:31 AM
#10
Re: Newtons Method for Approximating Roots
Originally Posted by Zaccheus@Work
You should be able to automatically generate a decent first guess:
Quickly determine the number of digits and then use something like pow(10, (numberOfDigits1)/2) as the initial guess.
For example a value of 100 should give you 10 as the first guess which is exactly right.
If you are going to use the pow function with nonintegral powers, you might as well just calculate:
Code:
double root = pow( number, 0.5 );
Your method for calculating a first guess rather defeats the point of this thread
If you have a set of precomputed values of pow(10,(numberOfDigits1)/2) for the possible values of 'numberOfDigits', however, your idea would make sense.

March 23rd, 2009, 07:39 AM
#11
Re: Newtons Method for Approximating Roots
I did say 'something like'.
Implementing a tentothepowerof function for integers is quite trivial:
Code:
double tenToThePowerOf(unsigned n)
{
double result = 1.0;
for(unsigned i = 0; i < n; ++i) result *= 10.0;
return result;
}
Last edited by Zaccheus@Work; March 23rd, 2009 at 07:47 AM.

March 23rd, 2009, 07:54 AM
#12
Re: Newtons Method for Approximating Roots
Originally Posted by Etherous
Peter_B is absolutely right. It's not so much as a worry of stack overflow, but performance. For example, a recursive fibonacci function could take thousands of times longer than an iteration one, in very extreme situations
Yes, the performance is an issue also, due to all the function calls and stack manipulation. It won't be anywhere near 'thousands' of times slower though. The recursive fibonacci function is a pathological case due to the recursion having two branches, each of which is of the same order as the original problem, giving a running time of O(2^n).
In code:
Code:
Fibonacci(n) = Fibonacci(n1) + Fibonacci(n2);
The iterative fibonacci solution, however, just calculates the fibonacci numbers in order up to n  giving an O(n) solution.
I didn't mention this before, but a bigger reason not to use recursion for the present case is actually that the problem isn't naturally recursive. Recursive solutions are best used when you can break the problem down into subproblems, which are of the same type as the original problem but smaller. That is not the case for the square root problem.

March 23rd, 2009, 08:06 AM
#13
Re: Newtons Method for Approximating Roots
Originally Posted by Zaccheus@Work
I did say 'something like'.
Implementing a tentothepowerof function for integers is quite trivial:
Code:
double tenToThePowerOf(unsigned n)
{
double result = 1.0;
for(unsigned i = 0; i < n; ++i) result *= 10.0;
return result;
}
That would work nicely
Having a function like your suggestion to give a good first guess also has the benefit of removing this responsibility from the caller of the approxSQRT function, making it much simpler to use  which is always a good thing.
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