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    Is it possible to do this?

    Is this possible or impossible?

    Scenario: I'm a paid suscriber to a website where I post ads. When I signed up I used to receive emails from people contacting via a web form, and in those emails I had the interested person name, the EMAIL, and some basic data about what they wanted (dates, amount of people).

    Some time ago, the website CHANGED the information I receive in the contact email. Instead the email of the person ie: someone@hotmail.com I get an email from respuesta-3130511f2d66d@mensajes.theirwebsite.com, and when I reply my email goes to that email. For basic reasons as privacy among others I need the REAL email address of the interested person instead respuesta-3130511f2d66d@mensajes.theirwebsite.com

    So I normally ask politely to the interested person to write it down, however that is a lot of work, and in best of cases a waste of time for me and them. So I wonder if there is any way to retrieve the real email based on the information I receive in the email I get (or any other method). Notice that the user enters their own email in the contact form, but the website does not passes it to me anymore, instead they want to keep control over it. Many times when we ask the interested person to write down his email, they respond: "I already did when I contacted the first time" and itīs true they did, but I do not have it. So itīs a long conversation.

    Is it possible what I want?

    I'll paste and example of the email full header I get normally:


    Code:
    Return-Path: <bounce-md_30847408.5a184c63.v1-1a53239b1a394821b6fac29c557e31d4@mandrillapp.com>
    Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42])
    	 by sloti2d1t05 (Cyrus fastmail-fmjessie46165-15760-git-fastmail-15760) with LMTPA;
    	 Fri, 24 Nov 2017 11:44:22 -0500
    X-Cyrus-Session-Id: sloti2d1t05-314447-1511541862-2-4221675995406300750
    X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 3.0
    X-Spam-known-sender: yes ("Address *@parairnos.com in From header is in addressbook");
     in-addressbook
    X-Spam-score: 0.0
    X-Spam-hits: BAYES_00 -1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS 0.001, HTML_MESSAGE 0.001,
      RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE -0.0001, SPF_PASS -0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.01,
      URIBL_GREY 0.424, LANGUAGES unknown, BAYES_USED global, SA_VERSION 3.4.0
    X-Spam-source: IP='198.2.135.15', Host='mail135-15.atl141.mandrillapp.com', Country='US',
      FromHeader='com', MailFrom='com'
    X-Spam-charsets: plain='utf-8', html='utf-8'
    X-Resolved-to: paquetes@onlinehoteles.com
    X-Delivered-to: paquetes@onlinehoteles.com
    X-Mail-from: bounce-md_30847408.5a184c63.v1-1a53239b1a394821b6fac29c557e31d4@mandrillapp.com
    Received: from mx1 ([10.202.2.200])
      by compute2.internal (LMTPProxy); Fri, 24 Nov 2017 11:44:22 -0500
    Received: from mx1.messagingengine.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])
    	by mailmx.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6272CCB8
    	for <paquetes@onlinehoteles.com>; Fri, 24 Nov 2017 11:44:21 -0500 (EST)
    Received: from mx1.messagingengine.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])
        by mx1.messagingengine.com (Authentication Milter) with ESMTP
        id 61D5931EF35;
        Fri, 24 Nov 2017 11:44:21 -0500
    ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; d=messagingengine.com; s=arctest;
        t=1511541861; b=wCOe+pFOsXCJIuL3GBIbA11DcM+UUTz83QKLfO0bot6bMBu
        Nx1IDcZs4IaJhf/hy08Uh0X3sCa0oRlLeZfz1YVcA8n/zR3zLDmqv6K4O5eQimSP
        X/Yvh2TVI1b7/cz6ndzNjhlMfuGqvWblxus+q9UKFi68Br007W/ubQ8rRbmST9vi
        4JmYeyZdmbwyB6VjH1ymjQkzHj518hIH+nn75NmCLBbunIxOpG/M3xoAJ5x8sKXt
        qumeY8L47lC5+A6bzcAiv6Ia4DnNMBMO6SVBPaLPusRNW5svTS58cU1vKGpfFTPd
        6TkPuExIn+odXjoyAToQuey4zrfSo5/EcRzKY0g==
    ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=
        messagingengine.com; h=from:subject:reply-to:message-id:to:date
        :mime-version:content-type; s=arctest; t=1511541861; bh=OAgb4C+e
        7NdGSMyrcSPFOKQ0Oc+1e3bYSmcZ+dVki/0=; b=W7+YeUcRLvuLOvkDv0gjIAqu
        +M1KVMZm4YO6nk772qO7iDN1zu/Uybb/0sk2Su7Nq/l5Fs50dIrrlkEYdeyCFjdB
        94D8dmGb8kJWphVy6ESx6LlK2bZJfGAGOlobB/UI8pssmRqDSCWZJU8tYZYg9ymP
        Wtcm5+3cQgkh5Wq3r7sDtSh/GD5hkGNqxK+y8Th9ziuR1vx4ytAJXvPgw6LWkNts
        po3+P0wGNXLr/YwXqsc0CyBSrC18xFxZH+KQa3a47NQTPy+EMgJN+AtLOCgaKTMC
        as1BWOES8IrSLrkrvrk4gTzookXUpZBtclclI59E66cYU1IMHGHgR49IIkda5A==
    ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.messagingengine.com;
        arc=none (no signatures found);
        dkim=pass (1024-bit rsa key sha256) header.d=mandrillapp.com header.i=@mandrillapp.com header.b=TZFTAXXK;
        dkim=pass (1024-bit rsa key sha256) header.d=parairnos.com header.i=mensajes@parairnos.com header.b=hCMV6cZa;
        dmarc=none (p=none) header.from=parairnos.com;
        iprev=pass policy.iprev=198.2.135.15 (mail135-15.atl141.mandrillapp.com);
        spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=bounce-md_30847408.5a184c63.v1-1a53239b1a394821b6fac29c557e31d4@mandrillapp.com smtp.helo=mail135-15.atl141.mandrillapp.com;
        x-aligned-from=fail;
        x-category=phishing score=300 state=101;
        x-ptr=pass x-ptr-helo=mail135-15.atl141.mandrillapp.com x-ptr-lookup=mail135-15.atl141.mandrillapp.com;
        x-return-mx=pass smtp.domain=mandrillapp.com smtp.result=pass smtp_is_org_domain=yes header.domain=parairnos.com header.result=pass header_is_org_domain=yes;
        x-tls=pass version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128
    Authentication-Results: mx1.messagingengine.com;
        arc=none (no signatures found);
        dkim=pass (1024-bit rsa key sha256) header.d=mandrillapp.com header.i=@mandrillapp.com header.b=TZFTAXXK;
        dkim=pass (1024-bit rsa key sha256) header.d=parairnos.com header.i=mensajes@parairnos.com header.b=hCMV6cZa;
        dmarc=none (p=none) header.from=parairnos.com;
        iprev=pass policy.iprev=198.2.135.15 (mail135-15.atl141.mandrillapp.com);
        spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=bounce-md_30847408.5a184c63.v1-1a53239b1a394821b6fac29c557e31d4@mandrillapp.com smtp.helo=mail135-15.atl141.mandrillapp.com;
        x-aligned-from=fail;
        x-category=phishing score=300 state=101;
        x-ptr=pass x-ptr-helo=mail135-15.atl141.mandrillapp.com x-ptr-lookup=mail135-15.atl141.mandrillapp.com;
        x-return-mx=pass smtp.domain=mandrillapp.com smtp.result=pass smtp_is_org_domain=yes header.domain=parairnos.com header.result=pass header_is_org_domain=yes;
        x-tls=pass version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128
    Received-SPF: pass
        (mandrillapp.com: Sender is authorized to use 'bounce-md_30847408.5a184c63.v1-1a53239b1a394821b6fac29c557e31d4@mandrillapp.com' in 'mfrom' identity (mechanism 'include:spf.mandrillapp.com' matched))
        receiver=mx1.messagingengine.com;
        identity=mailfrom;
        envelope-from="bounce-md_30847408.5a184c63.v1-1a53239b1a394821b6fac29c557e31d4@mandrillapp.com";
        helo=mail135-15.atl141.mandrillapp.com;
        client-ip=198.2.135.15
    Received: from mail135-15.atl141.mandrillapp.com (mail135-15.atl141.mandrillapp.com [198.2.135.15])
    	(using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits))
    	(No client certificate requested)
    	by mx1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS
    	for <paquetes@onlinehoteles.com>; Fri, 24 Nov 2017 11:44:21 -0500 (EST)
    DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=mandrill; d=parairnos.com;
     h=From:Subject:Reply-To:Message-Id:To:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; i=mensajes@parairnos.com;
     bh=OAgb4C+e7NdGSMyrcSPFOKQ0Oc+1e3bYSmcZ+dVki/0=;
     b=hCMV6cZarW9ruJZjq/pP+jJwN5p3ps4fDstc12si+NsXg+98jV8ThtUh0BsZhj7ahdgcOaUcvjbQ
       sPqDTGDvo7GZHBSw5F5N2W6q5oDvT9rdVTRBbGt14Y9EFpJyuguKNxqdGdT2DLGjfMhsouCyWINa
       a1IaB9NbE3SbysbVF2g=
    Received: from pmta03.mandrill.prod.atl01.rsglab.com (127.0.0.1) by mail135-15.atl141.mandrillapp.com id h3166a1sau8o for <paquetes@onlinehoteles.com>; Fri, 24 Nov 2017 16:44:20 +0000 (envelope-from <bounce-md_30847408.5a184c63.v1-1a53239b1a394821b6fac29c557e31d4@mandrillapp.com>)
    DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mandrillapp.com; 
     i=@mandrillapp.com; q=dns/txt; s=mandrill; t=1511541859; h=From : 
     Subject : Reply-To : Message-Id : To : Date : MIME-Version : 
     Content-Type : From : Subject : Date : X-Mandrill-User : 
     List-Unsubscribe; bh=OAgb4C+e7NdGSMyrcSPFOKQ0Oc+1e3bYSmcZ+dVki/0=; 
     b=TZFTAXXKrdMRdTY0m/mQMRbg5gMqdNeeRz+sIbyBloeg5D6yQiF1DzQkgmm3IxoXpsfjze
     NZ3pOi/TrAr3Oy2a2cVl+WJH4MHz3m9GW1nJSMWGBRggW3/LAkclwWD94PWk/Dj2EivZTArI
     5wIHg5wss5WeApXHVpSp1munW3xS8=
    From: luciana hernandez <mensajes@parairnos.com>
    Subject: Consulta recibida en Parairnos.com #3130511
    Received: from [162.243.163.106] by mandrillapp.com id 1a53239b1a394821b6fac29c557e31d4; Fri, 24 Nov 2017 16:44:19 +0000
    Reply-To: luciana hernandez <respuesta-3130511f2d66d@mensajes.parairnos.com>
    Message-Id: <34819195.8383.1511541859568.JavaMail.root@parairnos-ws-1>
    To: Online Hoteles <paquetes@onlinehoteles.com>
    X-Report-Abuse: Please forward a copy of this message, including all headers, to abuse@mandrill.com
    X-Report-Abuse: You can also report abuse here: http://mandrillapp.com/contact/abuse?id=30847408.1a53239b1a394821b6fac29c557e31d4
    X-Mandrill-User: md_30847408
    Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 16:44:19 +0000
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_av-LUp9NcuLxMXbkS16mdyVkg"
    X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 171124-6, 24/11/2017), Inbound message
    X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
    
    --_av-LUp9NcuLxMXbkS16mdyVkg
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    
         Parairnos
    <https://www.parairnos.com/?cr=3D55080%3APNzzuX%2BiTxBZR9G6aSazZmOj73n%2FX9=
    WJOlASO1%2Begcs%3D&utm_source=3Dpropietario-aviso-de-consulta&utm_medium=3D=
    email>
                                     Hola Usuario,         Ha recibido
    una consulta para la propiedad en Carlos Paz
    <https://www.parairnos.com/alquiler/villa-carlos-paz/hotel-y-=
    -9638.html?cr=3D55080%3APNzz=
    uX%2BiTxBZR9G6aSazZmOj73n%2FX9WJOlASO1%2Begcs%3D&utm_source=3Dpropietario-a=
    viso-de-consulta&utm_medium=3Demail>.
    
    
     Datos de la consulta: 
    
    *Enviada por:* Joe Doe
    Dates:* desde 17/02/2018 hasta 21/02/2018 
    *Cantidad de personas:* 3 
    
    You can reply Joe Doe pod=C3=A9s responder directamente este email, o hacer click aqui
    <https://www.parairnos.com/mensaje/3130511?cr=3D55080%3APNzzuX%2BiTxBZR9G6a=
    SazZmOj73n%2FX9WJOlASO1%2Begcs%3D&utm_source=3Dpropietario-aviso-de-consult=
    a&utm_medium=3Demail>
    y responder desde 
    
    <https://www.parairnos.com/?cr=3D55080%3APNzzuX%2BiTxBZR9G6aSazZmOj73n%2FX9=
    WJOlASO1%2Begcs%3D&utm_source=3Dpropietario-aviso-de-consulta&utm_medium=3D=
    email>
      
    --_av-LUp9NcuLxMXbkS16mdyVkg
    Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    
    <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.=
    w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
    <html xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    =09<head>
    <a href=3D"https://mandrillapp=
    .com/track/click/30847408/www.parairnos.com?p=3DeyJzIjoiUnNmNWhjTWlmLUtLNHV=
    jS3JJRDZVcEpBbzBBIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDg0NzQwOCxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXC=
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    3239b1a394821b6fac29c557e31d4" height=3D"1" width=3D"1"></body>
    </html>
    
    
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  2. #2
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    Re: Is it possible to do this?

    Sounds like the the site you are using is not sharing the information. I'd speculate that you won't be able to get the real email from the header information being sent (although I didn't look too close at what you posted). You need to ask if the site you are using has an option to allow users to share their real data.
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    LotsOfSoftware, LLC
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