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  1. #631
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    "the truth has not been in your courtroom
    never has been in your courtroom

    all you have is confusion in your courtroom

    why do i have to stand and take the blame for your sins again?

    i've spent my life in jail,
    paying for you,
    so that you could ride your bicycle,
    have your birthday parties,
    have what you call a life

    you know, i never had a life

    i don't even know what life is, you know:

    i go to the desert,
    i'm not even allowed to live in your desert

    i'm no good for anything except to be used,
    as your scapegoat

    i'm used

    every day of my life,
    i've been used

    when I haven't been used,
    and I have been on the - on the street,
    i've been chased,
    robbed,
    harassed,
    pushed,
    kicked,
    my ribs have been broken

    you know,
    the same man that gives you a traffic ticket
    is the same guy that knocks my brains out

    he figures just because he's the man
    nobody's gonna say anything

    my daddy's not a congressman,
    a doctor,
    or a lawyer

    ... under the door
    ... sneaking
    ... sneaking everywhere

    everything is sneaky up around Sneakyville

    ... has to be sneaky, and it's even a shame to sneak
    ... such an evil nasty thing

    you gotta sneak to get to the truth

    the truth is condemned ...

    the truth has been in your reservation,
    building your railroads,
    emptying your garbage

    the truth is in your jails,
    and the young lads starting your courts or your congress
    where the old sit judgement on the young

    future of old George on the...
    eat your father

    look at the madness that goes on

    you can't prove anything that happened yesterday

    now is the only thing that's real

    you can try to prove that Columbus sailed on that ocean,
    but it's not the same ocean:
    it's a different ocean

    it's a different world

    every day, every reality is a new reality

    every new reality is a - is a new horizon,
    a brand-new experience oblivion

    a friend of mine
    he's afraid of what he might have to do
    in order to save his reality,
    as I saved mine

    you can't prove anything:
    there's nothing to prove

    every man judges himself

    he knows what he is

    you know what he was

    i know what i am

    we all know who we are

    nobody can stand in judgement
    like you're standing in judgement

    it doesn't amount to anything

    what they're doing is, they're only persecuting themselves

    they're persecuting what they can't stand to look at in themselves:
    the truth!

    they can't stand to look at the truth in themselves so they persecute themselves

    they're persecuting themselves every time they go on the freeway

    they hate themselves

    look at the signs:
    stop,
    go,
    turn here,
    turn there,
    you can't do this,
    you can't do that,
    you can't,
    you can't,
    you can't,
    this is illegal,
    that's illegal,
    everything's illegal

    the police used to watch over the people;
    now they're watching the people


    the president doesn't represent the people;
    he could be on the roadside picking up his children

    but he isn't

    he's in the White House sending them off to war

    and you're saying i have to pay for this again,
    and again and again

    i've gotta pay for your sins

    how many times have i gotta pay for your sins?

    i'm getting tired
    i'm getting tired"

    -- epistemic reflections
    by charles manson
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    "It's hard to believe in something you don't understand." -- the sidhi X-files episode

    galathaea: prankster, fablist, magician, liar

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    this is why we use a hourglass when passing the bong...

    the sands of time, bleed like so many memories floating along the swirl of cosmic indifference...

    /times up...pass it along....

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    just saw "Fellini: I'm a born (big?) liar" last night

    loved italo calvino as the hobbit
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    "It's hard to believe in something you don't understand." -- the sidhi X-files episode

    galathaea: prankster, fablist, magician, liar

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    Originally posted by Tom Frohman
    what's a semaphore? ( i don't think you mean a signal flag).
    Semaphore: Part of a phore; not a whole phore
    Or...
    Perhaps he meant "squirrel"?
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    Windows System Error 4006:
    Replication with a nonconfigured partner is not allowed.

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    Originally posted by galathaea
    charles manson
    Look at your game, girl...
    Thought for the day/week/month/year:
    Windows System Error 4006:
    Replication with a nonconfigured partner is not allowed.

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    Originally posted by vicodin451
    Semaphore: Part of a phore; not a whole phore
    Or...
    Perhaps he meant "squirrel"?
    I really meant to say semi-whore...was crusing the good section of the porn store recently guess it was on my mind...big mommas and all...it's just well I'm loaded with laptops...and my fingers are bloated and sticky ...darn keyboards designed for midgets....hmm...need to check that section tommorrow....

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    1.a junk wanted to be polished !!
    2.a lying mail wanted to be matched with the current trend !!

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    Originally posted by hometown
    1.a junk wanted to be polished !!
    How'd you know???
    Wakeup in the morning and kick the day in the teeth!! Or something like that.

    "i don't want to write leak free code or most efficient code, like others traditional (so called expert) coders do."

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    whore junk: I accept all what you pass to me; please come and help my string problems

    How'd you know???
    What are you talking about ?
    This is off topic post.

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    Originally posted by vicodin451 Look at your game, girl.
    (Sigh) Theory of Control, Management and Turing machine. I dont know about this stuff. But I guess it s boring.
    Poor 44=BD

    BD=big dumb

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    Originally posted by hometown
    (Sigh) Theory of Control, Management and Turing machine. I dont know about this stuff. But I guess it s boring.
    Poor 44=BD

    BD=big dumb
    Two facts are known: The ball is round; the game lasts 90 minutes.
    Everything else is just "Theory".
    Verere testudinem! (Fear the turtle)

    Once you can accept the universe as matter expanding into nothing that is something, wearing stripes with plaid comes easy. -Albert Einstein

    Robots are trying to steal my luggage.

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    Originally posted by Tom Frohman
    Two facts are known: The ball is round; the game lasts 90 minutes.
    Everything else is just "Theory".
    Experience:
    1.The ball mishaped because so many people brutally kicked take it...

    2.This game is over, but another game will start...life is like a rolling ball...So the game stops only when the players donot want to play anymore.

    3.Theories are statements that explain why and how something happens... Sharing the information gained in the experiment usually involves publishing the results... And if many other "gurus" get the similar results after finishing their own experiments, the hypothesis given from the beginning may become a theory then...That is what I think about theory's origin..



    [edit]Nina ! Your English is so bad[/edit]
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    Originally posted by Tom Frohman
    Two facts are known: The ball is round; the game lasts 90 minutes.
    Everything else is just "Theory".
    You can't prove we lost...
    SolarFlare

    Those who cling to life die and those who defy death live. -Sun Tzu

    cout << endl;
    return 0;
    }

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    and in the morning after the night
    i fall in love with the light...

    a-nana-na-nana...



    since I'm stumped on the current Q+A thread's puzzle, and find myself unable to put together even a three valued logic evaluation of a yes-no response into a logic table that wants to give me any information, I thought I'd ask a question over here.

    I don't really have a good answer for it myself yet, but i'm looking.

    Take a basic graph theoretical description of a 2D topological complex. Basically, take a collection of vertices and edges connecting them, and define a face as a cycle in the graph. Call a face any cycle in the graph, but adhere to a one-face/one-cycle rule (so that both sides of a cycle may not be counted as a face), or more geometrically, all faces have an "outside" and an "inside" with some volume separating it from other faces (ie. they are oriented and there is a positive measure of volume that can be given to the object).

    Here's a simple example. The smallest complex possible is the graph of the tetrahedron. You have 4 vertices, 6 edges, and four faces. In fact all platonic solids and any of the extensions by Bucky and the rest of the geometers are examples of such complexes.

    Now, the tetrahedron has genus 0. Its topologically equivalent to a sphere. You can deform between the two forms without puncturing.

    And my question is: what is the smallest number of faces required by such a figure if we know that it has genus 1 (ie. can be deformed to a torus or donut without puncturing)? What of genus 2? Is there a series here?
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    "It's hard to believe in something you don't understand." -- the sidhi X-files episode

    galathaea: prankster, fablist, magician, liar

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    Originally posted by galathaea
    what is the smallest number of faces required by such a figure if we know that it has genus 1 (ie. can be deformed to a torus or donut without puncturing)? What of genus 2? Is there a series here?
    42.
    Thought for the day/week/month/year:
    Windows System Error 4006:
    Replication with a nonconfigured partner is not allowed.

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