the eternal conflict between good and evil

This bunny is no more... I have eaten it.... Burp!!

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Originally Posted by Vaderman

This bunny is no more... I have eaten it.... Burp!!

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No, no! It's still here.
http://www.savetoby.com/i/pot.jpg

Its not wise to provoke or to humilate me....

<breathes>...

<death stare>

Wish I lived in Indianapolis.

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/2...431154000.html

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Its not wise to provoke or to humilate me....

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:D

That bunny is cooking... something... :D

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Originally Posted by cilu

No, no... R2-D2 knows Obi-Wan. That's why Leia had entrusted him with the Death Star plans when he was sent to Tatooine to find Obi-Wan. But C-3PO did not. When they were bought by Lars and Luke, C-3PO clearly told Luke they are looking for someone called Obi-Wan Kenobi, though he doesn't know who that is.

Now, there is another thing. In The Empire Strickes Back, when Luke leaves Yoda to go to Bespine to help Leia and Han, Yoda tells Obi-Wan that he is not their last hope, as Obi-Wan said, because there is another one. So this means that they didn't know Padme and Anakin had twins, or at least Obi-Wan didn't. I'm currious to see how ROTS will cover this part.

And if I remember correctly in The Return of the Jedi (I'll tell you exactly next week when I'll see it again) Leia tells Luke that she didn't know her mother well because she died when she was very little. That means Padme survived the childbirth. Anakin falls to the dark side for the love of Padme. He has visions of her dying in childbirth and wants to save her. I'm currious if he succeeds. I really don't know this part... If he doesn't and she dies giving birth to the twins then there is another inconsitancy with the first episodes.

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Obi does know about Leia but doesn't tell Luke so when Vader reads his mind he won't know about her!
Very little can mean at childbirth... or Leia doesn't know who her real mother is?

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Originally Posted by cilu

That bunny is cooking... something... :D

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Is THIS your bunny?

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Originally Posted by gurleygirl

Obi does know about Leia but doesn't tell Luke so when Vader reads his mind he won't know about her!
Very little can mean at childbirth... or Leia doesn't know who her real mother is?

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From the conversation between Yoda and Obi-Wan in The Empire Strickes Back I understand that Obi-Wan doesn't know about Luke's sister.

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LUKE: But I can help them! I feel the Force!

BEN: But you cannot control it. This is a dangerous time for you, when you will be tempted by the dark side of the Force.

YODA: Yes, yes. To Obi-Wan you listen. The cave. Remember your failure at the cave!

LUKE: But I've learned so much since then. Master Yoda, I promise to return and finish what I've begun. You have my word.

BEN: It is you and your abilities the Emperor wants. that is why your friends are made to suffer.

LUKE: And that is why I have to go.

BEN: Luke, I don't want to lose you to the Emperor the way I lost Vader.

LUKE: You won't.

YODA: Stopped they must be. On this depends. Only a fully trained Jedi Knight with the Force as his ally will conquer Vader and his Emperor. If you end your training now, if you choose the quick and easy path, as Vader did, you will become an agent of evil.

BEN: Patience.

LUKE: And sacrifice Han and Leia?

YODA: If you honor what they fight for...yes!

Luke is in great anguish. He struggles with the dilemma, a
battle raging in his mind.

BEN: If you choose to face Vader, you will do it alone. I cannot interfere.

LUKE: I understand. (he moves to his X-wing) Artoo, fire up the converters.

Artoo whistles a happy reply.

BEN: Luke, don't give in to hate -- that leads to the dark side.

Luke nods and climbs into his ship.

YODA: Strong is Vader. Mind what you have learned. Save you it can.

LUKE: I will. And I'll return. I promise.

Artoo closes the cockpit. Ben and Yoda stand watching as

the roar of the engines and the wind engulf them.

YODA: (sighs) Told you, I did. Reckless is he. Now matters are worse.

BEN: That boy is our last hope.

YODA: (looks up) No. There is another.

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BEN: Luke, I don't want to lose you to the Emperor the way I lost Vader.

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Does Ben not realise that I'm here...But instead of the dark side I have transfered over to the code side... :D

Btw Cilu, do you sleep with the manuscript under your pillow? :lol:

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Originally Posted by Vaderman

Btw Cilu, do you sleep with the manuscript under your pillow? :lol:

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The manuscripts are my pillow. :D

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Originally Posted by ovidiucucu

... with the blessing of Mama Russia. :D :D


Yes, Kiev is a wonderful city, I was twice there.
But we have decided to build a new capital in the Snakes Island (Black Sea) or near the Bastroe Channel (Danube Delta). ;)

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Idea is greate. And we will take protectorate over all other Europe. The govermnet language will be C++ :D

... I don't think that proves anything, Cilu. Sorry, you don't have me convinced that Obi didn't know.

Besides, I think this entire conversation boils down to: The third movie needs to be here to answer all these questions!!

Have you read any of the books, Cilu?

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Originally Posted by gurleygirl

Have you read any of the books, Cilu?

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No, I haven't. I don't read books written after the movie. That is a principle of mine... ;)

Evil will always triumph over good because good is dumb.

I must admit, I wanted Simon666, the embodiment of pure evil to post in this thread. :D

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Originally Posted by Simon666

Evil will always triumph over good because good is dumb.

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You are rightas never :cool:

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Originally Posted by Simon666

Evil will always triumph over good because good is dumb.

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LOL

and yet, Dark Helmet still lost to Lone Star...

Good will prevail! GO GOOD GUYS!

So how come you have evil bunny on your sig? :confused: :D

Dont fight it... succumb to it. ;)

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Originally Posted by Simon666

Evil will always triumph over good because good is dumb.

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We should have a debate thread for the real conflict between good & evil.

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Originally Posted by Simon666

Evil will always triumph over good because good is dumb.

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You have seen Spaceballs?! :D

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Originally Posted by Deniz

We should have a debate thread for the real conflict between good & evil.

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This thread is about the conflict between good and evil in the star wars universe.

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Originally Posted by che_rish

So how come you have evil bunny on your sig? :confused: :D

Dont fight it... succumb to it. ;)

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Because my beau told me to
;) to NoHero

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Originally Posted by gurleygirl

Because my beau told me to

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I must admit I never heard this word before... I had to search it in the dictionary... :sick:

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Originally Posted by che_rish

Dont fight it... succumb to it. ;)

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Darth Che, I have noticed your new avatar. Did the Force told you to change it?

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Originally Posted by cilu

I must admit I never heard this word before... I had to search it in the dictionary... :sick:

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beau: sweetie, honey, dear, darling, hug daddy, sugar bear, sweetheart, love cup, schnookums... :D

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Originally Posted by gurleygirl

beau: sweetie, honey, dear, darling, hug daddy, sugar bear, sweetheart, love cup, schnookums... :D

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Definitelly french! ;)

According to WordWeb

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1. A man who is the lover of a girl or young woman
2. A man who is much concerned with his dress and appearance

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Cilu You are the last one who is not fallen to the bunny dark side :D

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Originally Posted by Skoons

Cilu You are the last one who is not fallen to the bunny dark side :D

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Didn't you hear? The bunny has fallen to the dark side. He is now known as Darth Bunny.

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Originally Posted by cilu

Didn't you hear? The bunny has fallen to the dark side. He is now known as Darth Bunny.

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So dark side has taken me :eek:

@GurleyGirl: Oh... I see. But I didn't know at that time that Bunny has fallen to the dark side.

@Darth Cilu: The force has told me that my avatar lacked motion. The time has come to change it.

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Originally Posted by cilu

This thread is about the conflict between good and evil in the star wars universe.

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In that case Simon666 obviously hasn't seen the original Star Wars movies or doesn't remember how it ends. :D

looks like more and more people are falling to the dark Side.... good, good

All hail Darth Bunny, he may rule this Universe... :cool:

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Originally Posted by NoHero

You have seen Spaceballs?! :D

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Why yes ofcourse.

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Originally Posted by Deniz

In that case Simon666 obviously hasn't seen the original Star Wars movies or doesn't remember how it ends. :D

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It ends quite evil, where they hold a barbecue on human flesh, though only the roasting of Darth Vader is pictured while through the helmets you could derive that the Ewoks are eating Jango Fett troops instead of Han, Luke and Leia which they originally planned to have for lunch. It isn't clear whether Han, Luke and Leia join in in the feasting of human flesh but it can be supposed to. I blame Lucas for not showing this in visual detail as he wanted to lure kids to the theaters, a reasonable explanation considering the dark, gruesome move to torture adults with a Jar Jar Binks character.

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looks like more and more people are falling to the dark Side.... good, good

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This says it all...

Yes Marius... its proven!! :eek: ...

I'm wondering what he prefers: Darth Papa or Darth Ratzi... :D

Zam Fir holds the true path to the darkside!!!
Yes Zam Fir with his horrible Pan Pipes!
Always playing and playing!
Pan Pipes are the dark side!

ahoodin

Hey, are you talking about Gheorghe Zamfir? He's absolutelly great with the pan pipes... :rolleyes:

Why yes Cili, I am!!!

Pan Pipes must be the dark side, they hurt my ears!

ahoodin

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Originally Posted by ahoodin

Pan Pipes must be the dark side, they hurt my ears!

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Then you probably haven't heard Zamfir playing the pan pipes. His music is an enchantment of senses...

Why yes, I hear him on all his commercials!
Although I have nevver been to a concert!

Zamfir!

:cry:

Which country are you from?

Zamfir is a fellow Romanian. He used to live in France during '80s and '90s, but a few years ago he became broke (like any other great artist ;) ) and he was forced to come back to Romania. He takes part in various concerts, once in a while, but I've never seen him live. Unfortunatelly. :sick:

America.

I did not know Zamfir was Romanian. I will
have to quite cutting on him.

Romania is cool with me.

ahoodin :cool:

Can`t understand why new Pope and The Emperor so similar

I heard rumors that George Lucas has decided to make episodes 7-9 also. That's a wonderful news. :thumb:

In the meanwhile, there are 16 days left and I heard that a pirate versions of ROTS is already available on the net. Though I kinda doubt.

Someone is bringing in a Zamfir CD for me!

I wonder if he has a Website?

This appears to be one URL.

http://romania-on-line.net/whoswho/ZamfirGheorghe.htm

I'm not aware of any...

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Originally Posted by cilu

I heard rumors that George Lucas has decided to make episodes 7-9 also. That's a wonderful news. :thumb:

In the meanwhile, there are 16 days left and I heard that a pirate versions of ROTS is already available on the net. Though I kinda doubt.

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W00t!! A few months ago, I was thinking it would be nice if Lucas produces another trilogy after the 4-6 episodes. That piece of news is really great!! :thumb: :)

Yes, that's great.

15 days left!

I've just found the first (of four) draft of Star Wars Episode IV. Very interesting how it begins:

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The Star Wars by George Lucas
Rough Draft [First of four major screenplay drafts]
Lucasfilm Ltd.
5/74

1. FADE IN:

SPACE

A sea of stars is broken by the vast blue surface of the planet, Utapau. Five
small moons slowly drift into view from the far side of the planet. The main
titles are followed by a roll-up:

Until the recent Great Rebellion, the Jedi Bendu were the most feared warriors
in the universe. For one hundred thousand years, generations of Jedi
perfected their art as the personal bodyguards of the emperor. They were the
chief architects of the invincible Imperial Space Force which expanded the
Empire across the galaxy, from the celestial equator to the farthest reaches
of the Great Rift.

Now these legendary warriors are all but extinct. One by one they have been
hunted down and destroyed as enemies of the New Empire by a ferocious and
sinister rival warrior sect, the Knights of Sith.

A small silver spacecraft emerges from behind one of the Utapau moons. The
deadly little fightercraft speeds past several of the moons, until it finally
goes into orbit around the fourth moon.

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(bold highlights are mine)

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At that moment, all heads turn as someone enters the room. It is General Luke
Skywalker, Commander of the Aquilaean Starforce. He is a large man,
apparently in his early sixties, but actually much older. Everyone senses the
aura of power that radiates from this great warrior. Here is a leader: a
Jedi general. He looks weary, but is still a magnificent-looking warrior.
His face, cracked and weathered by exotic climates, is set off by a close
silver beard, and dark, penetrating eyes. Sandage is somewhat embarrassed and
quietly sits down.

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The Princess Leia, about fourteen years old, possessing a soft beauty and iron will, is embracing her mother, Queen Breha, a warm, silver-haired matron. There are tears in the princess' blue eyes. Biggs and Windy jump around inside the speeder, disrupting the efforts of the one-armed Amber to pack several plaxiform cases.

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12. GOVERNOR HOEDAACK'S QUARTERS - ALDERAAN

The large, white-on-white executive quarters resound with the high-pitched
laugh of the evil Governor Hoedaack. He slaps Darth Vader, a tall, grim-
looking general, on the back, and the general's mouth makes the slightest
gesture at a smile.

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General Skywalker embraces Han Solo, the underground contact. Han is a huge, green skinned monster with no nose and large gills.

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Devil Two (Chewie), a young hotshot of about sixteen years, miraculously dives his ship through a virtual wall of laser fire, and blasts a huge radar disc into dust. Chewie signals his navigator, who lets out a whooping cheer, as the craft veers into a victory roll.

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Very, very interesting how this evolved...

Spilberg says we will cry at the end.

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The director also revealed that he saw 'Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith' a week and a half ago, and that it was 'absolutely amazing, the best of the last three films'.

He said that George Lucas's film, which hits UK cinemas on May 19, was very dark, and warned listeners: 'You'll cry at the end.'

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That means Padme will die... :cry: