What do you think of China

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And communism never taught us to "SAVE" the world. I must mention, once again, that the communism in our country is different from in Romania. :)

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As it was Erwin, as it was... ;)

I never said anything about saving the world. I was talking about "building the socialism on the highest peaks of progress". :D Different things, I guess... ;)

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Originally Posted by mehdi

chinese are very week at english(of cource it involves myself )

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But I thought you are Iranian, not Chinese... :confused:

I just read an article in National Geograph Magazine about Zheng He's Grand Armada. His ships were 10 bigger than all three ships of Columbus' and Vaco da Gamma's ship all together. Megalomania was always at home in China. ;)

Never mind, che_rish. Austria is where the kangoroos come from, heb Deniz my Aussie colegue.

And well, I thought calling an Inuit "Eskimo" is unpolite... but hey, that's the way it go-go-goes...

Anyway, you chinese folks are great: You had font and gunpowder long before we had. Because you never went through Inquisation... The world is flat... :rolleyes:

You guys revolutioned science... :thumb:

I just can't understand why chinese writing is so inefficiently designed? Poor Japanese also got this disease... In the last case it's 2 syllable alphabets, modifiers and thousands of hieroglyphs. How long do you learn "alphabet" and basics of writing?

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Originally Posted by RoboTact

I just can't understand why chinese writing is so inefficiently designed? Poor Japanese also got this disease... In the last case it's 2 syllable alphabets, modifiers and thousands of hieroglyphs. How long do you learn "alphabet" and basics of writing?

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I heard that a chinese/japanese Kid must at least be 16 before she/he can read the local newspaper.

By the way: You Russians could use latin alphabet too, can't you? :cool:

/Just kidding, RoboTact

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Originally Posted by Deniz

Let me guess. Made up language by Mick?

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Jeebus, you can look up words in the Micktionary than :D

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Originally Posted by NoHero

The world is flat... :rolleyes:

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Off topic, but there's a great essay on the whole flat-earth thing by Stephen Jay Gould in his book Dinosaur in a Haystack. He shows how the idea that people in the Middle Ages believed the earth was flat was in fact largely a myth concocted in the nineteenth century. Of course there were a few "scholars" promulgating the idea of a flat earth, but they were paid little heed.

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Originally Posted by cilu

But I thought you are Iranian, not Chinese...

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I'm completely made in iran :D ,I'm not chinese :D

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Originally Posted by NoHero

By the way: You Russians could use latin alphabet too, can't you? :cool:

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No, there are sounds in russian alphabet which don't sound well when written using latin characters. In translit (when something in russian is written using latin characters) it sound disgusting and many forums prohibit using of translit. ;)
And by the way, almost all characters of russian alphabet correspond to single sounds. No "tsch" here.
Anyway, russian alphabet is as simple as latin and written words pronounced relatively literally (to about the same extent as german words)...

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Originally Posted by ErwinChen

OK, it seems you have misunderstood what I mean. May be my English is good enough to express myself exactly. Or It's not appropriate to use the word "World" here. I just want to say I love IT, because it bring many happiness to me. It's the software such as IE that enable us to exchange our opinions on the internet.

And communism never taught us to "SAVE" the world. I must mention, once again, that the communism in our country is different from in Romania. :)

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That's how it works. No different from what was here. It just looks this way while you live within the system. You may not notice, but it's never-stoping propaganda. And it make you think the way you do. It successfully affects most of the population. But once you're out, you can see how unnatural it was.

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Originally Posted by NoHero

Never mind, che_rish. Austria is where the kangoroos come from, heb Deniz my Aussie colegue.

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Yeah, I know... by the time I knew Deniz was just being funny, I let him continue with his "guesses". :D

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Originally Posted by NoHero

And well, I thought calling an Inuit "Eskimo" is unpolite... but hey, that's the way it go-go-goes...

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Did I do that? :confused: :eek: Hope not!:o

I was only joking NoHero. Sorry if I came across rude or if I offended anyone.

Blame che_rish, she encouraged me. :p

che_rish you instigator you :p

:eek: What?!?! LMAO!!

Hey, I didnt encourage you Deniz. I merely shut up when I realized you were just kidding!! :p

// Erwin, I'm sorry if we have somehow went off-topic. :D :wave:

EDIT: Notsosuperhero... you're in with Deniz on this too?? Hehehe. :p

You're reacting that way because you subconsciesly know it's true. :p

Bring out the saurkraut & lowenbrau NoHero and turn up the polka band we're gonna have a good old fashioned Australia day this year!

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Originally Posted by Deniz

You're reacting that way because you subconsciesly know it's true. :p

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Heh heh heh. Whatever. :p

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Originally Posted by NoHero

I heard that a chinese/japanese Kid must at least be 16 before she/he can read the local newspaper.

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%@#$!&, You heard? Or just you thought? By that logic, I would have too many things to learn in the after 5 years for I cannot read until 16.

BTW, who knows Chinese, even just a little. :)

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Originally Posted by RoboTact

No different from what was here. It just looks this way while you live within the system. You may not notice, but it's never-stoping propaganda. And it make you think the way you do. It successfully affects most of the population. But once you're out, you can see how unnatural it was.

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I guess you are right .......

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Originally Posted by ErwinChen

BTW, who knows Chinese, even just a little. :)

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I think we all do, and I dont think anyone meant any disrespect. I admire your passion for IT (I used to be like that a few years ago). I hope you reach your goals and have an enjoyable time here on CodeGuru.

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Originally Posted by Deniz

I think we all do, and I dont think anyone meant any disrespect.

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I surely know. Sometimes I am even afraid that my tone will offend anyone for I didn't know much about the tone in English.

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Originally Posted by Deniz

I admire your passion for IT (I used to be like that a few years ago). I hope you reach your goals and have an enjoyable time here on CodeGuru.

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谢谢。 Thank you very much, Deniz. Good Day. :)

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Originally Posted by Deniz

Bring out the saurkraut & lowenbrau NoHero and turn up the polka band we're gonna have a good old fashioned Australia day this year!

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tee hee... you organize the girls... and I well I organize the beer :D :thumb: ... And all the chinese people of CodeGuru are invited!

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Originally Posted by NoHero

tee hee... you organize the girls... and I well I organize the beer :D :thumb: ... And all the chinese people of CodeGuru are invited!

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Heh heh heh

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Originally Posted by ErwinChen

BTW, who knows Chinese, even just a little. :)

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You mean.. Chinese language?? I do know two: Nihao! (Hello, Hi) and... Nihao ma (not sure of the spelling, but I was told that means: How are you?) :D

// Are those correct? :)

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Originally Posted by che_rish

You mean.. Chinese language?? I do know two: Nihao! (Hello, Hi) and... Nihao ma (not sure of the spelling, but I was told that means: How are you?) :D

// Are those correct? :)

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Yes, of course. Give you two more.... xie xie (Thanks) & zai jian(Goodbye) .
And your spelling is also correct. :)

Cool!! I knew about the "thanks" in Chinese... not sure of the spelling though. (I thought it was... Shie-Shie. Hehehe. :D) Zai jian is new.. i'll remember that.

Xie xie, Erwin!! :wave:

//Edit: How do you say "I'm fine, thank you." When someone asks me Nihao ma?

From Cherish:

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//Edit: How do you say "I'm fine, thank you." When someone asks me Nihao ma?

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Ain't you a Chinese? Or rather, don't you have some Chinese blood in you? U look like a Chinese + some other Asian/non-Caucasian race, but you're telling us you dunno? What......in the mug.....have the government of NMI been teaching you? Crap?

Anyway, when someone asks you "Nihao ma"(how are you), you would reply with the following three choices(choose one) :

1) Wei sen mo ni zhe yang nan kan? (why are you so ugly?)
2) Wo hao, xie xie! (I'm fine, thank you!)
3) Wo bu hao. (Not good.)

Good day,
BBP Xeon.

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Originally Posted by Xeon

From Cherish:

Anyway, when someone asks you "Nihao ma"(how are you), you would reply with the following three choices(choose one) :

1) Wei sen mo ni zhe yang nan kan? (why are you so ugly?)
2) Wo hao, xie xie! (I'm fine, thank you!)
3) Wo bu hao. (Not good.)

Good day,
BBP Xeon.

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I do not think the choice 1 is correct. It's impolite.
Usually, we reply with the following:
1) Shi de, wo hen hao, ni ne? (Yes, I'm fine. (/*Thank you.*/) And you?)
2) Hai xing. (It's ok.)
3) Kong pa bu shi hen hao. (I'm afraid not so good.)
:D

From Erwin:

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Usually, we reply with the following:
1) Shi de, wo hen hao, ni ne? (Yes, I'm fine. (/*Thank you.*/) And you?)
2) Hai xing. (It's ok.)
3) Kong pa bu shi hen hao. (I'm afraid not so good.)

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By the way, Erwin.....do mainland Chinese really greet each other like this? I hate to say this, but it's overly polite and corny to me, especially 1) and 3).
It's the equivalent of the following English greetings in the following scenario :

-Good morning, how are you?

1) Good morning, I am fine. Thank you very much.
2) I'm afraid not, but thank you very much for asking.

Because from what I know, people usually greet others with less-corny and more informal stuff like :

-Good morning, how are you?

1) Nice. You?
2) Fine! You?
3) I'm ok, I guess.

I dunno......maybe it's different style and different culture and different countries. Those three you suggested are very classic in writing, but when put to real-world speech, maybe they won't work out.
Maybe I'm used to the informal greeting/talking styles in Singapore, that's why.

In Singapore, our greetings/farewells are all in Singlish, mostly. :D:D

-Eh! Hao mah? (Hey, how you?)

Our reply would usually be.....

1) Ok lah! (Ok lah)
2) Hao lah! (Fine lah)
3) Hai ke yi lah (Still can lah)
4) Bu hao lah, ni leh? (Not good lah, you leh?)

Good day,
Big-Daddy Xeon.

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Originally Posted by Xeon

From Erwin:
By the way, Erwin.....do mainland Chinese really greet each other like this? I hate to say this, but it's overly polite and corny to me, especially 1) and 3).

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eh~ Yes. Actually, it's just the informal stuff.
For example, we seldom say "Good morning. or Good afternoon." or something like that as the western do. Instead, we usually greet each other by saying "Ni Hao."/*Hello*/.

And if we meet a long-time-no-see friend, we usually say "Hi, zui jin hao ma?" /*Hi, how are you going in recent days.*/
As a reply, we usually say "Hai xing, ni zen me yang a?" /*OK, how about you. Hai xing. (It's ok.) == Hai ke yi lah (Still can lah)
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And we do not think it's overly polite. In fact, we do greet each other like that.

However, Xeon, there are still many differences in style or culture between us. For example. Suppose you and me are classmates, and I haven't seen for the whole afternoon, then maybe I will ask "Where are you going this afternoon. Or What are you doing this afternoon." I know in western country, this may be taken as impoliteness. But in China, it's OK. That's the differenct.

P.S. Don't ask gentlemen "What's your wages?" && Don't ask ladies "What's your age?" in western countries. Am I right? :D

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However, Xeon, there are still many differences in style or culture between us. For example. Suppose you and me are classmates, and I haven't seen for the whole afternoon, then maybe I will ask "Where are you going this afternoon. Or What are you doing this afternoon." I know in western country, this may be taken as impoliteness. But in China, it's OK. That's the differenct.

P.S. Don't ask gentlemen "What's your wages?" && Don't ask ladies "What's your age?" in western countries. Am I right?

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Very interesting, Erwin! By the way, it's funny.......because......in case you dunno yet......I'm not from a Western country!
I'm from the Northern Marianna Island, and I'm the guy-friend of Cherish. In fact, we're gonna get married next week......congratulate us! :D:D

Anyway, seriously....I'm from Singapore, not US or Europe. Regarding whether it's ok to ask a guy his wage or whether it's ok to ask a girl her age, it doesn't really matter now, trust me. I'll advise you on these two critical issues which can cost your life.

For the wage issue, it's not really an issue; you just gotta be sensitive. If a guy is a blue-collared worker and has 4 kids to bring up and he's living in a torn-down, 2 room home, you'll be insulting his ego and pride if you ask him this kinda question. But....if you ask a CEO or an executive how high is wage is, he'll be flattered.

For the women and age issue, it's not really an issue too. For girls aged 25 and below, it's fine to ask. They'll be flattered. For girls age 25 and up, try not to, unless you wanna get Whack-In-the-Sac. In either case, it's better to ask them when you know them better, or else you'll be scaring them. :)
The most extreme case is when you ask a 45-year old lady what her age is. She'll make sure you can't produce any offspring after that, which is sad, because from what I know, the mainland Chinese, especially, are very particular on family name and descendants. :)

Good day,
Xeon.

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Originally Posted by Xeon

From E-Chen:

I'm from the Northern Marianna Island, and I'm the guy-friend of Cherish. In fact, we're gonna get married next week......congratulate us! :D:D

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Oh,yeah. You're gonna get married? Congratulations, for you and your graceful young lady. :)

And thanks for your advice. :D

From Erwin:

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Oh,yeah. You're gonna get married? Congratulations, for you and your graceful young lady.

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Why, thank you! Our wedding is 3 weeks from now, and I'll try my best to invite you(wedding is in NMI, so I'll pay for your tickets, since the air-route from China to NMI isn't so faraway).
Do send your blessings to me 2 years from now, cos' that's when Xeon Junior will be born! I'm gonna be a dad soon!!! :wave::wave::wave:

http://forums.codeguru.com/

See you!
Xeon. ;)

I visited Hong Kong and China about 15 years ago.

Hated China - loved Hong Kong...!

From John E:

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I visited Hong Kong and China about 15 years ago. Hated China - loved Hong Kong...!

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Whoa, you seem to have taken on my guts and even surpassed me, John! How frank you're! Ain't you scared that Erwin is gonna throw flaming paper and urine bomb-bags into your home while you're watching 8 pm TV with your wife and kids? Ain't you scared that someone will stalk your family day and night? Ain't you scared that you might get mugged and attacked while you're on your way home?
http://www.norse-myths.com/A-Mai-1.gif

Good day,
Xeon.

ErwinChen seems a decent enough sort to me. He knows it's impolite to ask a guy his wages - or to ask a lady how old she is.

Such people don't normally know how to make fire bombs.... :D

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Originally Posted by John E

Such people don't normally know how to make fire bombs....

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Xeon did not mention "Fire" when talking of bombs... :D :D :D

From S. Buddha:

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Xeon did not mention "Fire" when talking of bombs...

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Yes, yes, John! U must be old indeed. I was talking about flaming paper and urine bomb bags.
Anyway, those terrorist and extremist clerics are constantly teaching young, misled people to make bombs to blast up places.

Everyone.......today, eXtremist Xeon, aka "Big Daddy", is gonna teach everyone here how to make two types of bombs to scare the crap outta civilians.
Bush and Blair......are you listening?(oops....I forgot Bush is on his 5-week vacation on his ranch......argh ha ha ha ha HOOO!!!!!! :D:D:D)

Pyrotechnic bomb:
This is the kinda bomb that contains materials used in the A-bombs in Japan 50 years ago. To make an exact copy, it's simple.
1) Squash and crush some white A4 papers into a ball. As thick as possible.
2) Wear anti-flammable gloves and pour kerosene over the ball.
3) Lit it with fire and throw at target.
4) Eat cheese cake and laugh.

The Herbal Bomb:
Increasingly, more and more terrorists are using this kinda bomb to cause destruction. It's free and easy to make.
1) Drink lots of water(2 cups every 30 mins) and do not go to the toilet for 10 hours.
2) At the end of the 10 hours cycle, get a large plastic bag(thin and fragile) and urinate into it.
3) Get a rubber band and tie it.
4) Go out into the streets, set sight on target.
5) Run as fast as you can and throw with full force at target.
6) Jump up and down, like what Tom Cruise did on Oprah's show.
7) Eat potato chips and down fruit juice.(beer ain't good for health)

http://www.norse-myths.com/A-Choi-2.gif

Good day,
Xeon. :wave:

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Originally Posted by John E

I visited Hong Kong and China about 15 years ago.

Hated China - loved Hong Kong...!

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OK, John. I won't throw flaming paper or something like that into your house if you just had said "I hate your country". Because I don't have the right to demand everyone like China.

But I think you should use "the mainland" instead of "China" because Hong Kong is a part of China. I protested it! // :angry

From Erwin to John:

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But I think you should use "the mainland" instead of "China" because Hong Kong is a part of China. I protested it! // :angry

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See John? EC is angry now. :D

On the other hand, Erwin.....does it really matter? I mean, com'on. I'm sure John wouldn't even give a care if you tell me that you hate America, or if you tell him that California/Alaska/N. Carolina is part of Canada or Brazil. :)

There's also been lots of cases everywhere whereby mainland Chinese get very raged-up simply because foreigners say wrong(but very minor) things.
Like for example, that James LeBron Nike ad is banned in China just because it shows LeBron defeating dragons and kung-fu masters at a basketball game. Sigh.

Over there, hundreds of Chinese tourists staged protest/strike on some Singapore airline and refuse to get down the plane just because there was a slight flight delay. Sigh. In the end, the staff had to pay US$63 to each person.
And another lot of hundreds of Chinese tourists staged a mass protest at some hotel at Malaysia just because there were pig paintings in the hotel rooms???!!!! Oh my mugging God. :)

http://www.norse-myths.com/A-Benimaru-1.gif

Cool down, Erwin! :)
Xeon.

Anyway.... Hong Kong wasn't part of China when I visited it...! :p

Mick is Love...
Free Mick...

Attica...Attica...Attica

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Originally Posted by Mick

Mick is Love...
Free Mick...

Attica...Attica...Attica

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Whats gone wrong with you, Mick?

Mick has posted the same above in 3 other threads (that I know of!)! :D

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Originally Posted by Siddhartha

Whats gone wrong with you, Mick?

Mick has posted the same above in 3 other threads (that I know of!)! :D

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Way too much general tso chicken?

Mick is Love...
Free Mick...

Attica...Attica...Attica

/This is an automated response

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Originally Posted by Siddhartha

Whats gone wrong with you, Mick?

Mick has posted the same above in 3 other threads (that I know of!)! :D

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Actually, the threads he posted are far more than 3. What's bug happened to him?

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Originally Posted by Siddhartha

Whats gone wrong with you, Mick?

Mick has posted the same above in 3 other threads (that I know of!)! :D

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Actually, the threads he posted are far more than 3. What's bug happened to him? :D

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Originally Posted by ErwinChen

Actually, the threads he posted are far more than 3. What's bug happened to him? :D

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How is that double post working out for you :D

Mick is Love...
Free Mick...

Attica...Attica...Attica

/This is an automated response (china the source of all my spam...still love you)

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Originally Posted by Mick

/This is an automated response (china the source of all my spam...)

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OK. Sorry for that. Wish you have a good love. :D

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Originally Posted by ErwinChen

OK. Sorry for that. Wish you have a good love. :D

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Heh...I think of it this way...as long as your spamming me...your're not sending the nukes :)

/Send me some noodles and hot chinese women :)

//I should be the next US diplomat to China...

From MiCk to EC:

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Send me some noodles and hot chinese women

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A sure and obvious sign that he's lusting for some oriental flesh.
Sorry, MiCk......but my current collection doesn't include Chinese girls.
How about Scandinavian? They've the blood of the vikings and Norse goddesses in them. Real tough for most men to crack too.
For Chinese girls, indeed.......EC can help you.

From S. Buddha to MiCk:

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Whats gone wrong with you, Mick? Mick has posted the same above in 3 other threads (that I know of!)!

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The poor little butterbun has gone nuts now that he's back.
A few weeks ago when I returned to CodeGuru after 2 years of absence, I thought I was a psycho, but MiCk is far worst now. At least a psycho doesn't waste bandwidth or spam, but look at this guy.

Not only is his normal speech all crap and gibberish, but it's also annoying nonsense.

Hey MiCk! What the mug is wrong you with? Fancy a Super Moderator like you behaving like some sex-crazed, Attica fanatic psycho.....com'on MiCk!
U're making us worried! What's wrong?

Did your 63th wife just dumped you?
Did your daughter stop calling you daddy?
Did your future son-in-law abuse you in a physical manner?
Did Squirrelman set his wild rodents on you?
Did you lose your popularity with all those hot 30++ year old ladies?
Did you lose your title as MVP? Did your boss sack you?
Did you get sexually harrased by a kid?
Com'on, MiCk!

If you've a problem, do tell us and we'll help you. Attica is a name of some building, I remember. Whatever. Or is it "Artic" or "Antarctica"?
Also, if you don't wake up, MiCk......I'm going to have to ban you. Sorry.
Yes, we're old pals since WW II, but even then, I gotta do my job. U know me.

Good day,
Xeon.

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Originally Posted by Xeon

And another lot of hundreds of Chinese tourists staged a mass protest at some hotel at Malaysia just because there were pig paintings in the hotel rooms???!!!!

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The Thruth Is Out There..

/Although it might seem the chinese tourists overreacted, I think they have the right to do so.. because I believe those who draw that pic is an Idiots/Moron/Retards and a racists... I feel very ashamed to be in the same country with those idiots... :sick: