Okay, unless someone knows mick personally or a lot better than I do. Doubt it.Quote:
Originally posted by Tom Frohman
You must be a Bush Republican:)
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Okay, unless someone knows mick personally or a lot better than I do. Doubt it.Quote:
Originally posted by Tom Frohman
You must be a Bush Republican:)
That is a simplification as typically used by the staunchest proponents who are against ANY restriction. I am not in favor of taking away everybody's guns, I don't give a **** if you think you're some kind of hero by shooting defenseless animals or if you need a gun to defend your business or home with from robbers, but you will not go telling me everyone in the world qualifies for having a gun including children, mental patients, people with a criminal record, or that you actually need an AK-47 or M-16 to go hunting or defend your home with. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by Mick
So when someones opinion differs from yours it has to be wrong, because yours is the only right way. After we get rid of guns, lets get rid of those machetes, then we can move onto forks, spoons, sporks. It's not up to the people anymore, it's up to who can scream the loudest. If you do not want to own a gun (and I don't own one by the way, but I have said that before) good that is fine, but don't tell me what to do.
Are you informing us of your digestive problems when going to the bathroom?Quote:
Originally posted by Mick
Who is wearing the brown shirt again?
Simon you're forgetting that there are fewer people in the States with guns rather than those without them than most people think in the world. Also, there's a reason why there are laws for regulating fire arms, so that they won't fall into the wrong hands, it's something called the Brady Bill(how unfortunate that it had come to be after a US president was shot and was wounded and another man was paralyzed). As for extensive government regulation of private businesses and lives, personally I'd have to side on this one with Mick. I don't want the government to look into my everyday life, all I want to do is pay my taxes, obey all of the necessary safety regulations(laws that ensure the safety of workers on the job, no children are used, no toxic materials are dumped on public grounds, etc.) and live in peace. I would hate to have the government tell me how much I have to pay people or what I should be doing in life or how much I can produce(product, substance, whatever that I make money off of).
And as for guns, if I ever do get one, it would be a sniper rifle, just so I can pick off bottles and cans on a shooting range. I don't like the idea of having to slaughter hapless animals that and it requires a little bit more skill(and challenge) than putting up a wall of lead with an AK-47. But even that rifle thing is far fetched(veeeeeerrrryyyy far fetched) for me.
Abortion, all the way, no one can tell a woman that she can't abort her child(not even if you're the government).
Cloning, definitely, we would gain an unprecedented volume of knowledge from this. It would lead to a revolution of curing diseases.
Government involvement in business(NO, as mentioned above). The big wigs DO NOT and SHOULD NOT tell a company how to run itself.
Ultra-environmental-protectionism, come one, that's one of the best scams I've ever seen to date. 20,000 years ago, when people lived, there were no factories, cars or powerplants and temperatures still varied by as much as 10 to 20 degrees celsius!!! However, rules that regulate waste disposal and the protection of important areas of wilderness and where people live, I support, but the Kyoto Protocol, hmmmm..... I'll stop there on that one.
Simon I respect you, but I find it difficult to agree on some of your ideas......
Hey, someone, give me a status of moderator and this place will be much more peaceful and patient than now. :rolleyes:
Heh, trying to suppress free speech dimm???? Man do I have a speech for you :D :D :p
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I call shenanigans. Since you 'know' me so well, then I 'know' you so well. You want to ban all guns. The federal goverment (read other states pushing their agenda) does not trump Maryland citizens right to decide how we want to live. If the majority in my state want to ban all guns, huzzah so be it. If they do not, huzzah so be that. The US federal goverment does not belong in the discussion, nor do belgian citizens. And that goes for almost anything.Quote:
Originally posted by Simon666
That is a simplification as typically used by the staunchest proponents who are against ANY restriction. I am not in favor of taking away everybody's guns, I don't give a **** if you think you're some kind of hero by shooting defenseless animals or if you need a gun to defend your business or home with from robbers, but you will not go telling me everyone in the world qualifies for having a gun including children, mental patients, people with a criminal record, or that you actually need an AK-47 or M-16 to go hunting or defend your home with. :rolleyes:
Well, he probably deserved a good smack. :rolleyes: :D :DQuote:
Originally posted by ats007spdou
Usually I'm a nice guy, but that comment is just begging for a smack in the face, my reaction was one of just saying something vague and walking away(I'm trying to promote an image of Americans one not of nutcases). But, after something like that, it makes you wonder.....
But as you said:
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most "common" people aren't usually the top of the crust(in terms of intelligence) regardless in which part of the world that you look.
Simon, correct if I'm wrong, but as far as I'm concerned, your impression of America is that guns here can be bought as easily as a car. Why don't you come over for a visit, take a load off, enjoy a burger(or any type of food that you want in New York or Boston), you'll be hard pressed to find anyone here with as much as a BB Gun(a small air rifle, will pierce the skin slightly at best, exceptionally weak).
O sure, a dead forum is what we all like. Btw, your English seems to have improved a lot since the last time I was really around. Congratulations.Quote:
Originally posted by dimm_coder
Hey, someone, give me a status of moderator and this place will be much more peaceful and patient than now. :rolleyes:
Show me where I said anything about guns. I merely referred to mick as a gun nut. That is different from referring to all Americans as gun nuts. Regarding abortion, cloning, the religious aspect I just made a general remark that it has a more important role than here and I'm not fond of that, that is also different from saying all Americans are little Pat Robertsons, you seem to turn everything I say into extremes. I am often guilty too of trying to read things behind the lines that aren't there, but you're pushing it a bit.Quote:
Originally posted by ats007spdou
Simon, correct if I'm wrong, but as far as I'm concerned, your impression of America is that guns here can be bought as easily as a car. Why don't you come over for a visit, take a load off, enjoy a burger(or any type of food that you want in New York or Boston), you'll be hard pressed to find anyone here with as much as a BB Gun(a small air rifle, will pierce the skin slightly at best, exceptionally weak).
Well, buying a gun is probably not as easy as buying a car. At least not in every state of the US. But it is still not to difficult and it does not seems to me that is does much to prevent people with bad intention to easily get one.Quote:
Originally posted by ats007spdou
Simon, correct if I'm wrong, but as far as I'm concerned, your impression of America is that guns here can be bought as easily as a car. Why don't you come over for a visit, take a load off, enjoy a burger(or any type of food that you want in New York or Boston), you'll be hard pressed to find anyone here with as much as a BB Gun(a small air rifle, will pierce the skin slightly at best, exceptionally weak).
It's probably difficult to find people with guns in some parts of the US (Boston, new York), but some other states have much more gun owners and holders (Texas, ...) ;)
For ats007spdou, some history of why micky and me don't get along well, here is one of his rants against those lousy dems, tinfoil hats dems, commies, treehuggers or whatever he likes to call 'em:
Where the reference to Montana and Oklahoma came from (I wasn't far off with Oklahoma):Quote:
Originally posted by Mick
Kewl, lets ban cars, tin foil hat dems..come on now, they kill more people, by intention, by accident...come on you libs, show me your so concerned, lets bike around, give up your car...for the fight against guns, cars against guns that's our logo, cars against guns, but we won't bathe until we win (but then that's nothing new)
/When you ban cars, only criminals will have cars
//Can you be a more asshated???
You know how can you say the 1st amendment is an individual right, but ignore the second??? that is not state rights, they are individual rights...ohh but not so when it's about guns??? look tin foils have your revolution, I'm waiting to stack your dead body like cordwood, your opinion is not the majority, bring it on...I'd be happy to put your birks, tree hugging arse on the fire...bring it on baby, get out of my country, go to canada or france, where they will surrender to you immediatly...you have no honour, and you have no loyalty to this great country, you are nothing, get out because we dont' want you, nor did the foudning fathers want you....you are much like the sympathizers with britian back in the day...except you love france and turn a blind eye to why the opposed the war against iraq...your so tin foil
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Originally posted by Mick
Then I will be a criminal, and move to a state like montana or idaho, and join my fellow criminals out there...
/Ruby Ridge...
media hype. I've lived in places where gun laws are relaxed and where gun laws are restrictive. It's not the wild wild west that the overblown retarded media likes to spout off with. Maryland has very restrictive laws and high gun homicides per 100,000 compared to texas, montana and VIRGINIA. Ohh yea, but that is because criminals run to VA to buy the gunz. Right dream on, that anti-drug war is working out well too, keep that up, cause you know banning drugs prevents people from getting drugs...Quote:
Originally posted by Elrond
Well, buying a gun is probably not as easy as buying a car. At least not in every state of the US. But it is still not to difficult and it does not seems to me that is does much to prevent people with bad intention to easily get one.
It's probably difficult to find people with guns in some parts of the US (Boston, new York), but some other states have much more gun owners and holders (Texas, ...) ;)
But nobody wants to report the dull news that someone prevented crime by having a gun, that wouldn't be sensational enough.
Mick advocating legalizing cocain, heroin, marihuana? I have seen it all in my life. :D
Often guilty? How about always guilty.Quote:
Originally posted by Simon666
I am often guilty too of trying to read things behind the lines that aren't there, but you're pushing it a bit.