<clears throat> Thank you for pointing that out. :o :D ;) :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by exterminator
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<clears throat> Thank you for pointing that out. :o :D ;) :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by exterminator
Well, actually I think that because he is the only man in the picture that looks Belgian. Perhaps I'm mistaking.Quote:
Yeah, Cilu.. he is the one on the left.. without the sun-glasses .. this answer was given in his birthday thread...
Oops I didn’t notice her right hand is under the table :eek: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by cherish
BTW: I am still waiting for marc confirmation which one he is :wave:
Cheers
I think he already confirmed that in his Birthday Thread..;)
Oh sorry, I just read it, he said he is the one on the left without the sunglass so it doesn’t leave any room for imagination :).Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Payne
Nice photo Marc :wave: At last you too in the photo album :D
Cheers
Yep, the one on the left. I forgot my sunglasses ... we decided last minute to sit outside for lunch :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by ideru
YepQuote:
Originally Posted by cilu
LOL :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by PadexArt
LOL :lol: I'm still able to differentiate between mail clients and codeguru , maybe some other people around here can't :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Siddhartha
That's correct, the other are libanees (I don't know how you write that...)Quote:
Originally Posted by cilu
Slightly OT, perhaps, and definitely a shameless plug, but I've started to put up some galleries of my photography over at MSN Spaces. These are just low-res samples of some of the stuff I've taken recently, and I'll be adding more galleries in the future as I get round to it.
I just thought some of you might be interested...
My albums on MSN Spaces are a few years old... but what the heck... CG time is more valuable. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
PS: use the top-left corner "not so visible combobox" in order to change albums; currently arranged by location.
I spent all of the last weekend (the long Easter Weekend) visiting Berlin for a second time.
(Berlin is by far one of my favorite cities!)
I couldn't but help spend an entire day in the Museum Island, and here I had the pleasure of meeting some of the oldest Codegurus, ever... :D
The photo below captures a meet at the entrance to the Pergamon Museum...
nice one sidd :thumb: .. that is a pharoah right??:D
Nice sneakers. :D
Sid... photogenic as usual! :) I've had a chance to see the pictures from the German MVP Open Days today, and, as always, Sid really stands out in every picture where he appears. That's where the Bollywood origins shine through... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Siddhartha
Sneakers? As far as I can tell, Tutankhamun is bare-footed in the picture... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by cherish
Aw, you know what I mean. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by gstercken
Btw, I am curious... when someone is "photogenic" does that always mean that they look good only in pictures?
Actually, that's an interesting phenomenon. Some persons (like Sid) look good in reality, and that effect is also almost always reflected in photographs. Other, less photogenic persons, while having a positive ("good-looking") impact in reality, tend to appear unfavourable in pictures. I must admit that I have no idea about the underlying principles of this observation...Quote:
Originally Posted by cherish
// Edit: In addition, and to answer your original question: Of course, the opposite exists as well: Persons who look good only in pictures. But usually and asymetrically, these tend to look good in reality as well - the disenchantment comes when they open their beautiful mouth to express a thought... ;)
// Edit 2: The good news is: Contrary to what it might seem at a first glance: We are on topic this time!
Hmm. Maybe because some feel uneasy when being photographed, hence they don't look as good as in person? (Just a theory). :D Probably, facial bone structure, lighting, etc also comes into play? Anyways, its nice to find out that you also find this "phenomenon" interesting. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by gstercken
Very true. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by gstercken
Thank goodness for that! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by gstercken
nice pic, Sid :thumb: Seems to be a nice place
Rejected. The observation usually also applies (and often especially) when the subjects in question are not aware that they are being photographed.Quote:
Originally Posted by cherish
Plausible, but probably not sufficient. My theory goes more like this: Even a person who is objectively "ugly" (read: unphotogenic) can be charming, have charisma and a way to behave, move and express her-/himself in a way that always renders the person pretty and attractive in a "live" scenario, while these attributes are evidently missing in any photograph - hence the discrepancy. Just a theory expressed in three words, however... But you get the idea. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by cherish
Seriously, I have always been stunned by the fact that some individuals who always look good in reality often make a bad appearance in photographs. Others just always look good. That's what the term "photogenic" is all about - but I never found a definitive answer to what "photogenicity" really means. Fortunately, we have the chit chat forum here on CodeGuru for that... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by cherish
// Edit: And, not to be forgotten, Wikipedia. But I have the strong feeling that what they tell us there is not much more than the amateur philosopy we are doing here... ;)
cool pic sid:thumb:
//your friend is really big..:p
Wow. I was actually going to post Wikipedia's say on the subject. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by gstercken
I admit that I haven't done any serious research on the subject - but I have just edited the Wikipedia entry 'Photogenic', adding my lay thoughts...Quote:
Originally Posted by cherish
I wonder if one can see your addition right away?Quote:
Originally Posted by gstercken
Well, it's there - that's what Wikipedia is all about. My addition is the third paragraph in the article (those unqualified ramblings about charisma etc.) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by cherish
Ohh. I see it now. :cool: I missed that part earlier. :D :o Nice entry, btw. :thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by gstercken
Thanks, but it certainly needs some reworking. After all, it's just my dumb little personal theory. I'm sure that some serious research has been done on the subject, and as soon as I can afford some time, I'll track it down and try to update the article in a more qualified manner. For the moment, I just enjoy the funny thought that everybody currently enquiring Wikipedia about the term 'Photogenic' will read my personal blabla and consider it as part of the latest findings on that subject... That's what makes an institution like Wikipedia interesting and dangerous at the same time, after all... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by cherish
But considering you composed/presented your personal theory in a clear manner in so short a time, its quite good. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by gstercken
Make that the two of us then. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by gstercken
nice pic sid :wave:
Dear Folks,
Thank you for your compliments... I am having a rough day at the moment and will reply to your comments in detail - a little later.
What surprises me upfront is Guido's intense thoughts on "photogenicity" (a topic that suits this thread to a T) - ones he came up with in the wee hours of the morning (3 a.m) and even added his piece of mind to Wikipedia. :thumb:
I did know of him being a nocturnal guy, but this initiative was really cool. :)
I'll get back later... Keep the interesting discussions going...
Ciao,
Sid!
That's what some say... But, given the fact that he has code inscribed all around him, he is one just like any of us... A Codeguru first and a Pharaoh next. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ideru
However, I am kind of pis*** that he refused to acknowledge the presence of a fellow member, let alone talk to me. :D
Thanks...Quote:
Originally Posted by cherish
That was an advertisement for sneakers. :D
Honestly speaking - there are a few hundred photos out there where my looks range from wierd, to extra-terrestrial, to being simply rascal-like. I keep these away from you all... In a safe locked by a couple of hundred locks the keys to which I've attempted throwing away into the ocean - lest someone gets them. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by gstercken
BTW... Where did you see the photos from the German MVP day? Sharepoint portal?
A guy from the Bollywood city of Bombay in the company of MVPs in Munich has to stand out, I presume - what with that skin tone, and hair color... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Guido
It's plain contrast at play... Right? :)
IMO, the roots of the word photogenic has to do with photography. i.e. I doubt if this word ever existed before the invention of the still camera, and of photographs.Quote:
Originally Posted by cherish
So, while "photogenic" conclusively means that the person looks good in "photos", it doesn't discount the possibility of an individual looking good otherwise. In doing so, the term doesn't confirm it either.
My 2 cents... :D
While I am not sure what you mean by "usually and asymetrically", I got the jist of the statement and agree with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by gstercken
I think when we meet a person whom we have seen in a photograph, (s)he tends to move from the realm of visual appeal which includes photogenicity to actual "likeability", "attractability" and "dislikeability" - virtues that often take priority over "visual appeal".
So, a "photogenic" person, or a person who looks good appeals to our visual senses, but can possibly fail in the faculties that result in being percieved as "likeable" or "attractive" and hence, lose value in the viewer's eyes.
Likewise, often when one meets a person who didn't make an impression on a photograph i.e. with less "visual appeal" but scores high points on the scales of "likeability" and "attractability" increases in value in the viewers' eyes - who might get prejudiced sufficiently enough to find this person henceforth as visually appealing as well.
Having said this - I must add that in my opinion - the statement I made in italics above is true for men and true for women in different ways. That is, men in general are more prone to making compromises on behavorial "likeability" for sake of "visual appeal" than women are - or put it differently - "visual appeal" affects their perception of "likeability" and "attractability".
Of course, there are always exceptions to the rule.
It is a great place... Every time I leave Berlin, I vow to return.Quote:
Originally Posted by kirants
If you ever make a Europe tour - Berlin is a city I would say you should not miss. More so if history and culture interests you. There ain't no place on this planet that has seen so much happen in the 20th century - the way the city of Berlin has.
Additionally, it has great Museums too - on Greecian, Roman, Turkish, as well as on Egyptian and other African Cultures. German archeologists who were at the forefront of discovering ancient sites around the world transported huge structures with utmost care and brought them here for reconstruction in original form and conservation - one reason that they survived. There is a lot to see.
One of the most famous Egyptian Relics - the exquisite bust of Queen Nefertiti is currently housed in the Altes Museum, next to the Pergamon Museum where that previous photo was taken. The bust was found in a site that is presumed to belong to the royal potter, and if you see closely, he hasn't completed his work on the bust. The left eye is incomplete.
Here is a photo taken by me (the 3300 year old relic is an original and in an as-is condition)...
...And made of stone... :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Max Payne
// Figuratively and literally so - after all, he wasn't as excited to see me as I was to see him. :D
So are you done with your monologue, Sid? :D
Yes - Florian, Olaf and Alexander have published over 300 pictures there in the meantime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Siddhartha
What I meant is: It is asymetrical in the sense that while less photogenic persons look good in reality and bad on photographs, the opposite is not necessarily true for photogenic persons: They look good on photographs, but usually also in real life... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Siddhartha
Sid, have you ever thought about contributing to Wikipedia? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Siddhartha
Back to the original purpose of this thread: Here's Sid and me at the second day of the MVP Open Days at Munich last weekend. I think you can clearly see who went to sleep immediately after dinner the evening before, and who decided to spend another two hours or so discussing the future features of Visual Studio, WinFX and the .NET Framework with some Microsofties at the hotel bar... ;)
At lunch, on the first day:
Attending a session (don't know where Sid had ended up...)
At dinner:
Sid, during some after-dinner discussion...
And a last one showing both of us (note the sneakers again - must be an ad series... ;))
@gstercken: Nice photos. :thumb: I really liked your comments/note with them. :D ;)
Yes, I've known that all along. ;) I asked Guido that because I want to know his view on being "photogenic".Quote:
Originally Posted by Siddhartha
This may sound strange, but some people find an individual photogenic, while others don't. And ofcourse, for one to determine if a person is photogenic: they should have had the chance to see that individual both in person and in photos, for comparison. I am speaking strictly about "visual appeal" in this case. Just my 2 cents. :D
:thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by Siddhartha
that's probably because your were not able to decipher the text written, if you had he probably would have acknowledge you :p :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Siddhartha
@cherish,gstercken and sidd, your 2 cents are really enlightening :thumb:
Thanks ideru. Although I personally believe the posts of Sid and Guido are the ones that are enlightening. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ideru
@gstercken: I just have to ask, but are you wearing a shirt with CodeGuru logo on it? I think I saw Sid wearing one, when you two got together with MrBeans... (I believe Cilu has one too). :D
EDIT:
Here is geeky me taken today at the office during my lunch break.
(1) While browsing CG forums...
(2) Looking at the photos here in this thread. :D
(3) Wishing you all a nice weekend! :wave:
This is kind of late, but I thought of sharing with you some photos taken last January while my friends and I went to some tourist spots in the island. :)
(1) At Bird Island (background) ...
Bird Island is located on the northern part of the island. It is a small cliff-girdled island the Japanese more poetically called Moon Viewing Island.
(2) The Last Commant Post ...
Here General Yoshitsugo Saito ordered his men to take seven lives for the emperor, then committed harakiri. The Last Command Post is in a cave just below high cliffs. There are several relics including a light Japanese tank and guns.
(3) At PauPau beach ...
One of the beautiful beaches in Saipan. :)
(No, I'm not the guy in the picture, although a friend and I are seen somewhere looking for nice seashells along the sea shore. :D This is the only picture I have of the beach, for I don't have my own digital camera. :cry: )
nice one cherish.. not geeky at all :D
@gstercken : nice pics :wave:
@cherish: nice photos ... but just confused kinda now :confused: wow :eek: the first set of photos showed you as a complete girl ....but the last photos in the second set... well i am kinda thinkin again :D
Aaaaa just checked te photo again ... you are in the background rite ??? :)
the first set of photos nice ones.... geeky ??? *thinking* * tryin-to-think* nope :D
@ideru: Thanks. :D
@sreehari: Thanks. Yeah, i'm in the background in the beach photo. :DEver since I was a little girl, I've always wanted to become a boy... :ehh: :eek: ;) :DQuote:
Originally Posted by sreehari
Anyways, I think it will be interesting to see other member's photos at the office, or perhaps at some nice spots in their location.
yeah it would be nice in the office , but its prohibited :DQuote:
Originally Posted by cherish