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Rightly said HD :thumb: but I think we are way past the tolerable limits...crossed the point of no return...now sadly only such sickening things could happen. Untill unless each and everyone in the country get this feeling...we are not going to prosper.
The poor don't have knowlegde of such things and the rich don't care...everyone shouts for some time now and everyone simply forget! And the Politicians want to keep it this way...
Our people should learn from neighbor china and strongly believe that a good, strict communist rule should set us right.
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Our people should learn from neighbor china...
Trust me - you don't want a Chinese style government in India.
If they need to build a factory where your home is - you'll be asked to relocate within weeks, and (if you are lucky) to another piece of land a few hundred kms away. You won't get to vote, and you can't talk against the Chinese government the way you just did against the Indian. It is either the government's way, or it is no way.
The grass is always greener on the other side...
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and strongly believe that a good, strict communist rule should set us right.
You really think China is communist today?
China is an oligarchist, semi-communist, part-capitalist, and a non-democratic country.
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Originally Posted by Siddhartha
Trust me - you don't want a Chinese style government in India.
If they need to build a factory where your home is - you'll be asked to relocate within weeks, and (if you are lucky) to another piece of land a few hundred kms away. You won't get to vote, and you can't talk against the Chinese government the way you just did against the Indian. It is either the government's way, or it is no way.
The grass is always greener on the other side... You really think China is communist today?
China is an oligarchist, semi-communist, part-capitalist, and a non-democratic country.
Agree to you sid !
What indian people need to do is pressure the govt. to take care these issues, show govt. & politicians that they know what "rights" are.
My personal belief is that revolution has started spinning, it is just a matter of time for it to start shaping things.
I will not look behind if I have opportunity to take part in it.
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The grass is always greener on the other side...
Yes true...but there is a downside and a upside to everything in this world...nothing come cheap and easy. There is no point in us arguing... But they are prospering...you need to get a little tough when you dealing with a large population like ours...if communist rule/or so is not brought it will anyway come in the form of civil wars/and ethnic clashes...every thing has a breaking point and sadly we seem to be reaching that point.
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Our people should learn from neighbor china and strongly believe that a good, strict communist rule should set us right.
What is the fault of people here that makes you feel they should learn something in the first place?
Otherwise, communism is not what we need.. we are going fine... there are always some nuisance creating people around and we just have to learn to deal with them. No one can stop all such trajedies but what we can do best is keep them to the minimum with awareness of our surroundings and more stricter defense and police surveillance...
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What is the fault of people here that makes you feel they should learn something in the first place?
Good question.
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But they are prospering...
Actually, India is prospering too. At a growth rate of 8% +, India is perhaps the fastest growing democracy in the world. Between India and China, the trade deficit is in favour of India (and this makes India a real exception as most countries in the world - including the US - trade with China with a deficit in favour of China).
So, in reality - things in India vis-a-vis China ain't bad at all.
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What indian people need to do is pressure the govt. to take care these issues, show govt. & politicians that they know what "rights" are.
Yes... Sad part if that 60% of the population that can't read and write doesn't know what rights mean...
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Yes... Sad part if that 60% of the population that can't read and write doesn't know what rights mean...
So our responsibility is to make sure that we educate them about their rights. I don't think it requires a Huge Effort. Imagine how many people do we meet everyday who don't know what these rights are. If we can make them understand these then it will definetly help.
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Good question.
Yes... Sad part if that 60% of the population that can't read and write doesn't know what rights mean...
You see, we are huge in size, we dont need all to get involved, just need enough amount of people to ask for things. :)
I felt very very sad when the students demand for removing reservation was denied, but this is just a start, next time it should grow double, and then see, govt. will have to listen.
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Ok fine I don't want to be the bad guy around here.
Yeah what is the fault? hmm how many fault's should I mention...ok root fault people just dont follow rules/care **** about the law...it seems as though this has become the way of life.
I commonly observe that while I am patiently waiting for the red signal others simply jump and people shouting at me to jump just because there was no traffic on the other side. This may sound small and but this where everything starts!
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A Normal Human Being can't Presurize his area MLA .and you are asking for goverment. Before a Goverment come in to power you have to plan everything that time only .People has to choose who is the right candidate for them but they can't do anything like you a lots of people want to do something for their country .but for election you want lacks of rupees from where you are going to come with that money. so This is The main Problem. We all know what is the problem and how to resolve it. but all think who is going to stand First.
That's always happen and if this will continue .you have to suffer in this situation Only
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So you think voting can solve the problem...but do you know voters are bought for a few hundreds!
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A Normal Human Being can't Presurize his area MLA .and you are asking for goverment. Before a Goverment come in to power you have to plan everything that time only .People has to choose who is the right candidate for them but they can't do anything like you a lots of people want to do something for their country .but for election you want lacks of rupees from where you are going to come with that money. so This is The main Problem. We all know what is the problem and how to resolve it. but all think who is going to stand First.
That's always happen and if this will continue .you have to suffer in this situation Only
When there is a group of normal people, it becomes powerful, little suffering and patience can bring major changes.
One reason of current law & order situation is this, people dont want to suffer any bit, they forget how badly they would have to suffer if they are victims.
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So you think voting can solve the problem...but do you know voters are bought for a few hundreds!
That's the problem On That day when voters is going to come by on their will and wish not by Money That due all of this will Finish. and it can happen only when Portly will be out from the contry
Thanx
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Ok fine I don't want to be the bad guy around here.
Yeah what is the fault? hmm how many fault's should I mention...ok root fault people just dont follow rules/care **** about the law...it seems as though this has become the way of life.
I commonly observe that while I am patiently waiting for the red signal others simply jump and people shouting at me to jump just because there was no traffic on the other side. This may sound small and but this where everything starts!
I don't know where exactly but you moved off-topic. A new thread is required.
Let me be a bit off-topic too :p - Education can in no way suggests what one should do and what one should not at political level. That is why we don't have an educational qualification requirement at that level. To be a leader, education is not required and neither is it as much required to choose a leader. It may help you build upon your basic ideas that have evolved in you through your surrounding but leadership is an inherent quality. Education can not make mind-readers.
At the political level or anything related to it is somehow related to some kind of bias-ness which can not be removed via any kind of education.
Regarding the reservations - I totally blame the congress govt in power - it they who started it .. its they who are still breeding it. This can become a neverending debate hence I shall stop. :)
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So our responsibility is to make sure that we educate them about their rights. I don't think it requires a Huge Effort. Imagine how many people do we meet everyday who don't know what these rights are. If we can make them understand these then it will definetly help.
Believe me Shuja, but a villager may be knowing his rights better than what I do... they know the law better... its not what matters.. what matters is how they use it .. and there can never be a 100% alignment in thinking of people all around the country. There will be diversity.. a major one.. but thats what makes it challenging... Everyone wants their benefit and hence that immediately affects the poll results. If in a Gram Panchayat election, a candi says he will provide better facilities - then the pollers should not, cannot and must not decide who to vote based on what the results might be in some other place. Development is a slow process and it happens in patches.
The country has come a long way from the pre-Independence disasters. It sure is moving ahead - it will!
I find it wierd how this discussion started in Bombay and Srinagar blasts thread. :ehh:
