May be the quality to you looks low because you have had your own knowledge standards uplifted! ;)
Time to share more to us! :)
//Quality is a relative term.. not relative to time only but relation to individuals
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May be the quality to you looks low because you have had your own knowledge standards uplifted! ;)
Time to share more to us! :)
//Quality is a relative term.. not relative to time only but relation to individuals
Also, it in a way tells that Windows development is shifting to .Net from VC++/MFC etc... I don't bet my life for this though!
Well, let's not jump to conclusions. Some people have left because of the reputation system, some others have left because of the ads. If it weren't for the fact that I found out how to write Firefox plugins, I would probably have left too. However there are still many nice and interesting people around and some new ones have joined.
I don't think the overall quality has decreased and that there are less interesting discussions. For example the very recent rand() discussion, C++ Aha moments and others show that there are still knowledgeable members who like to share their experience.
For Chit-chat, I have never been an avid follower I have to admit. IMHO the "Happy birthday xxx" threads are just killing any discussion here, since they flood the main page. And since the groupe of people who kept stuff like "The Boring thread" alive have maybe wisened up/are not bored anymore/left CG, this kind of thread doesn't survive either.
I agree...and since the Negative Rep has been done away with I think that might have been a problem...I know it was one person whom thought their way was the only way to program and gave negative feed back to all others...I haven't seen them on here in a very long time so maybe they left. I think this might have been a problem with others also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yves M
Ad's are not a problem for me..I just expand the forum..
Yves, kudos! I just wished some senior member to say that because no one does! Everyone is complaining... I wonder if everyone is complaining am I the only one who thinks differently about it or is it that I am at fault too? May be I am.. but I don't think so!
You listed example 2 of the threads.. and I can pick so many of them...
The thing is since I joined here - I did not even know how the copy constructor or the assignment operator worked - every thread for me here was a superb one since they all gave me hard time understanding.. but now fewer do.. but they do.
Thats the difference and that does not mean the standard has gone down. I am still able to appreciate the clarity of understanding of a lot of members. I understand the things too but the way they put it up is really appreciable.
I think there is still time before I start thinking the same way (bad threads.. yuck.. bad posts ... bad members .. yucks).
//Regarding Birthday threads - I don't mind coming here in GDCC and post a post using the "last post" functionality :D .. wishing someone. And there's this MarcG's Birthday thread that has now lived about an year infected with TWESIS virus - why would we want the boring thread? :D
Hm.. I hope it is not the reputed persons who have left because of the reputation system. And if it is them that has left, I would consider that move extremely silly and childish. If they were here when there was no reputation system, then why would they care if this system was introduced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yves M
The logic, I think, being put is that because of rep system new comers and some others (I don't know if I am in it.. I don't care) have started posting junks... because of that the quality has degraded. And because of those numerous bad quality posts people have started leaving forums... I consider this one as childish and silly too! Why would people rate spammers? If new comers rate new comers - it hardly makes a different of a 1/2/3 etc points.. but if aged people rate them they get huge points.. it is those aged senior members who are more responsible. And if the reputation system is being mis-used, I blame them for this and not the spammers or new comers or whatever...Quote:
Originally Posted by kirants
My question is how can a spammer get 1000/2000/3000 reputation points while reputed members would be having lets say 500 points.. (considering comparable count of posts) - it doesn't make sense until senior members are at fault.
I am getting mad at this blame game :mad:
If a person has to leave.. he will leave no matter what happens here.. if a person thinks of staying he will stay no matter what happens here... There are many other things for a person to do with his life apart from just posting on codeguru.. who knows what those reasons are? But I think that all is being percieved here as just because of ads and rep system. To an extent that might be true but that is a minority. I see those ads flashing above and around the page.. but if I am concerned with the content I will not even notice those ads (unless my browser crashes - in which case I report it to the feedback forum). If you ask with what the ad on the right and top says - I don't know - I don't care - I don't see it. There are lots of ad banners in the streets - do you know that? No one complains - it is making their life messy? I don't notice them...
My another question is why don't people directly confront the bad posts right in where they are in the threads?
No, it's not that. It's the same question(s) over and over again, receiving the same answer(s) over and over again for the sake of a few green dots.Quote:
Originally Posted by exterminator
Also in the rush for higher rep you'll see multiple identical answers for the same post. While some duplicates are natural ( same post time) the ones posted 30 mins later are not.
The spammers are not the problem. IMHO it is the senior members playing the rep game that cause more damage. If 1 duplicated/already answered question receives an answer from a senior member the OP will be encouraged to do that again. And the senior member will answer it again for the sake of the green dots.Quote:
The logic, I think, being put is that because of rep system new comers and some others (I don't know if I am in it.. I don't care) have started posting junks... because of that the quality has degraded. And because of those numerous bad quality posts people have started leaving forums... I consider this one as childish and silly too!
The spamming is there since the begining, so why CG is crap now ? I have seen a lot of people who came here, posted, answered, left, some of them came back again, but it doesn't mean codeguru has become a crap, instead I see the publicity of codeguru has gone up, plus we have many stable Codegurus here and I consider this as improvement in codeguru that people get answers faster, I have seen questions getting lost back then.
I think it's only a personal matter with few members who did't like the changes on codeguru.
Well, talk to Mick about it, since he left because of the rep system. Personnally I don't think the reputation system is a problem, but I don't think it's helpful either. It doesn't add much value since the green dots don't mean much to me. If a person has a great answer, it's a great answer, no matter how much green there is. Same for bad answers.Quote:
Originally Posted by kirants
In any case, I don't think that there is a strong correlation between the ads/ratings and people leaving. A few notable people that I remember well that have left before any of these:
- Paul Wendt
- Philip Nicoletti (he comes around once in a while though)
- Sam Hobbs
- galathea
Some have left long after these features:
- Gabriel Fleseriu
- Andreas Masur
So at least for these people (probably something like than 50k posts between them), the forum changes haven't mattered. They have left for reasons unrelated to CG (except probably Sam, but not sure).
What do you mean left? Look at their last activity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yves M
i wish it was that, but unfortunatelly is not. take a look around. you'll see.Quote:
Originally Posted by exterminator
Yves means Andreas and Gabriel are not as active as they used to be. Just browsing the forums once in a while is not being active to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by PeejAvery
Well look at their last post date.
But you know as well as I do that Andreas use to post 50+ a day here...and to quote Andreas "Well..." that is just not happening anymore, as his knowledge is missed here., maybe not by all but those who know him and the depth of his knowledge really miss reading his posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yves M
I have noticed some posters that only seem to post questions, statements and even some repeat post (as they didn't read all the post) in the same thread never offering code samples, snippets and sometimes only saying "your code is not the way to do it." But I think they don't post code as it will be taken apart much like they do to others...