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How can one vote/decide for the best article if it is not published yet? One can workaround that though, have a 15 days gap or something between the submission and poll. But what is the problem if an article gets nomination in the next cycle (according to the rule)?Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnyPoet
There would not be any problem in this, if you totally can be sure that a next cycle will happen. So if this constest starts to be a regulary game e.g as someone suggested 4 times a year, it would not be a problem. But whats when the competition is ended for any reason ? AQuote:
Originally Posted by exterminator
Another problem may be complaints of authors in a way: I have send in my article long enough before deadline, now I wasn't in this competition where I wanted to be. In this competition have only been 10 articles in the next competition there have been 30 So I havn't had any chanc to win.. blah blah blah. As long as competitions are for fun only nothing happens, when money occures in the peoples sight all has to g on lines which grants legal security for the gameleader. The submissiondate can be proofed by the upload protocols I think. The date of publishing could be delayed by any reason so this could always be interpreted as the jury's fault. - I'm in business for years, believe me, all what deals with money needs to be totally exact, or it leads to problems, because we all are human and human have emotions, sometimes terrible ones.
When the competition is 4 times a year only then the voting could happen one month after deadline. In this time is time enough to publish all articles and enough time for people to read them Maybe the time for voting then could be expanded to a full week or so. This way the lectors and Brad too, wouldn't get in so much stress to get articles out, as they are when they try to get all submitted articles published before deadline.
Also: If you as an author have a deadline you know exact, when is the last day for submission. If the deadline is the day to be published, so whats the last day for submission ? 3 days before deadline, 5, 10 ?
I for my person I'm not a writer who writes and instant submitts the material. First I'm coing the full project, then working out in which form it could be presented to get others understanding whats the idea behind, then working on drwings,writing text and code together, on a separate screen testing the code part putted into the textscript. Gettng out points where the project could be compiled by the user.
Then reading all the article again if it could be understood if necessary changing text, drawings, whatever, getting a friend for testreading it and again if neded changing some textparts to better it... I dislike to submit it to early. So if I have a deadline, which in reallity isn't my deadline I'm out of control for this production cycle and thats, what I totally dislike. Professionalism has to do with good control on every cycle of a production cycle. When I'm buying a ticket its not interesting me if the lottery has got the money from the dealer in between, I have bought it before lotto date and if I win, I win, nobody could come and tell me, we havn't gotten your money from the dealer, so you will play in the next game. Get the idea: Nobody who plays in that game can make the jury wrong for his own fault when he has submitted his work after deadline, but easily when it isn't counted and he thinks his submission was early enough, because it was 5 minutes before deadline. So I wouldn't do any rules that includes only a tiny possibility for getting queries or other troubles. Much better to have a bit of delay between publishing and voting date. Thats my ideas about that.
Has the winner(s) been decided yet ¿
It can end earlier as well.. it can be taken off while the poll happens or even when the poll has finished and closed. I think, Brad/JM/whoever, would keep those rights with himself/themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnyPoet
Can be interpreted the other way as well where chances become better. And why should people fear about competing with more or better articles? Or are you saying that awarding not-so-better articles is a better idea just for sake of getting more articles to pour in?Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnyPoet
The publishing date is important because on that depends the exposure to and base of readers and hence directly the poll. It also affects the google web crawler (and others), on which depends the chances of finding an articles searched via google. Submission date has no significance at all here.
A better idea would be to have a poll that only includes articles with published life greater than or equal to 3 months and not included in the last poll. For the first cycle, exclude the articles that were published before August (they already came under this poll) and much older ones don't qualify.
As you said can be interpreted in any way. So a clear directive is a deadline. I know that publishing date is also important, but you have to differ what belongs to what. The deadline may belong to the competition, the publishing date to other things, which basically have less influence to the game, as you can have, if you want theQuote:
Originally Posted by exterminator
voting starting 14 days after the last article of a specific competition is published. Easy to handle, because the lectors exactly knows when the last one is published. So whats against having clear regulations, which easily could be fullfilled by everyone ?
I never said that. I dont say anyone fears, but as a businessmen I know which strange arguments sometimes are coming up, when people didn't get the money they wanted to getQuote:
And why should people fear about competing with more or better articles?
???? :eek: hat has lead you to even think I would create such a sorry idea ? Thats against any interest.Quote:
Or are you saying that awarding not-so-better articles is a better idea just for sake of getting more articles to pour in?
Yes but this has basically nothing to do with the competition, thats all afterwards. That only has to do with voting on articles and this could be regulated easily depending on when the last one has been published with an reasonable timelag after that.Quote:
The publishing date is important because on that depends the exposure to and base of readers and hence directly the poll. It also affects the google web crawler (and others), on which depends the chances of finding an articles searched via google. Submission date has no significance at all here.
This is independent of the fact if we go on a deadline or on publishing date and is a good idea in both cases.Quote:
A better idea would be to have a poll that only includes articles with published life greater than or equal to 3 months and not included in the last poll. For the first cycle, exclude the articles that were published before August (they already came under this poll) and much older ones don't qualify.
I'm going to be traveling the next three days. I'll announce the recepients of the cash by Monday - worst case.Quote:
Originally Posted by HanneSThEGreaT
Brad!
Hi !
As I'm just working on my next part, I would really want to know if the middle of october now is meant with publishing date or with submission deadline. ( I have to know if I have to work on it every evening and the full next wekend for getting it out as soon as possible, or if there are still 14 days time to do the work ? ) Maybe at least there could be a decision regarding that for this competition.
And additional: Why is the competition not again announced in the forums.?
:D :D Halooo. Its worst case Day !! :D :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Brad Jones
I've announced them to myself ;) :D
I'll announce them to you guys in tomorrow's Newsletter! (and on the forum.) <excuses..... I traveled to our corporate office last week and was unable to get as much done while on the road. Having said that, I do have interesting news I'll share in the next few weeks. >
Brad!
< See how I'm building anticipation! >
:lol: :lol: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Brad Jones
A totally new and improved CodeGuru? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Brad Jones
Congrats JonnyPoet, Arjay and Hannes du Preez on the award :wave:
This was announced in today's Codeguru newsletter! If you don't get the newsletter, you should..... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by kirants
Thanks to everyone that submitted articles in August. If money were an unlimited thing, I'd give it to everyone. But alas, it is limited so three people get some for August. A couple more will get money for this next cycle as well!
Brad!
Thx a lot for the gratulations. Thx for your acknowledgement friends. I'm just working on my next part it will be submitted soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by kirants
As I know Hannes is also working on a new article. Lets see what he will have for us. ( I personally enjoy his style ) And he is helping so much in VB and VB net forums.
Gratulations to Arjay too. As I have seen he's very good in C# too, and I'm ... sórry to say ... not good enough in C++ I really would suggest him to write some intro lectures about Multithreading in C# Maybe beginning easy with backgoundworker and then some more complex stuff. I really would like to follow his lectures that way.
Congratulations! Well deserved due to excellent articles! :thumb: