Mass destruction weapons in Iraq

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Originally posted by Simon666

First of all: you're talking around the point here. Point is it very likely happened, by analysing the facts and statistics, the reports (yes, those horrible reporters, those commie bastards) and the reaction of a state.

But if you want an answer in order to talk around the point of it having happened very likely: I know a brutal idiot in charge of WMD who defied the UN. I know a country brutally destroying civilian homes defying the UN for decades. And I like to call Kofi Annan as witness. Saddam would come in very handy too as witness however. Could we know first hand how your country supported him, Rumsfeld included. But I guess directives have already been given from Rummy to the Pentagon to under no circumstance capture him alive. So even if I would like to call him, Mick, I couldn't.

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Did I mention we created the UN so we get to do what we want :)

Kofi seems to be towing the line currently, let me know when he steps out of line. We'll bring him to texas where we know how to handle those types of people. Do I have to link the weapons export list yet again to you? Something like, france, germany, russia blah blah

I was hoping well at least my advisors, well scratch that my friends said it would just be great to capture him alive, take him to new york, and drag him behind some big SUV that gets a mile to the gallon. I figure at the end, we can have a big texas Bar-B-Q little saddam steaks with some slaw on the side. Whatcha think?

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Originally posted by Mick_2002
Did I mention we created the UN so we get to do what we want :)

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No, but I had the impression Bush thinks it. It's nice when it is spoken out once so everybody knows what to expect.

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Originally posted by Mick_2002
Kofi seems to be towing the line currently, let me know when he steps out of line. We'll bring him to texas where we know how to handle those types of people. Do I have to link the weapons export list yet again to you? Something like, france, germany, russia blah blah

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Fine, sue Kohl and Chirac too. Both corrupt assholes. The more the merrier. Maybe then we'll really start giving an example against dictators by cleaning out our own closet.

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Originally posted by Mick_2002
I was hoping well at least my advisors, well scratch that my friends said it would just be great to capture him alive, take him to new york, and drag him behind some big SUV that gets a mile to the gallon. I figure at the end, we can have a big texas Bar-B-Q little saddam steaks with some slaw on the side. Whatcha think?

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I'm afraid you'll have to eat your steaks with a delicious napalm sauce in a restaurant annex bunker downtown Bagdad. :D

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Originally posted by Simon666

I'm afraid you'll have to eat your steaks with a delicious napalm sauce in a restaurant annex bunker downtown Bagdad. :D

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I prefer my Saddam with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

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Originally posted by Mick_2002
Kofi seems to be towing the line currently, let me know when he steps out of line. We'll bring him to texas where we know how to handle those types of people.

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By the way, what do you mean with this line? What is the meaning of the expression "towing the line"? And what has he done to be towing the line?

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Originally posted by Simon666

By the way, what do you mean with this line? What is the meaning of the expression "towing the line"? And what has he done to be towing the line?

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I was being sarcastic. Towing the line, means to go 'along' with something no matter what your opinions are.

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Originally posted by Mick_2002
I was being sarcastic. Towing the line, means to go 'along' with something no matter what your opinions are.

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OK, that still leaves open why and how Kofi is towing the line.

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Originally posted by Mick_2002
I was being sarcastic. Towing the line, means to go 'along' with something no matter what your opinions are.

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Excuse us, but we are not native english speaking people. It's difficult for us to be efficient in sarcasm when speaking english, and often even more difficult for us to understand when you are sarcastic or serious.

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Originally posted by Simon666
What do you mean with not a big deal? Politically, it would be one big mess, people around the world would be furious on the countries doing these things. But technically, it would not be a big deal for the world, yes

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Even when you agree you disagree!

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Originally posted by Simon666
If the Iranians could have launched it themselves, they would know and if there was such a chance, certainly not put themselves in the focus as they think they might be next on target. Think strategical Mick, as you taught me.

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Nobody likes having their words thrown back at them, but you should really take your own advice here. Those missiles could be Iraqi, Iranian, or Coalition forces. All three groups have motives. All three groups have means. Don't rule them out, don't single one out.

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Originally posted by Elrond
Excuse us, but we are not native english speaking people. It's difficult for us to be efficient in sarcasm when speaking english, and often even more difficult for us to understand when you are sarcastic or serious.

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Use emoticons! :rolleyes:

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Originally posted by Elrond


Excuse us, but we are not native english speaking people. It's difficult for us to be efficient in sarcasm when speaking english, and often even more difficult for us to understand when you are sarcastic or serious.

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I know but I am sarcastic by nature I can't help it. It's why I use alot of :) :) :)

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Originally posted by Simon666

OK, that still leaves open why and how Kofi is towing the line.

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He isn't and he is to some extent. I respect people that stick to what they feel strongly about. Whether they are right or wrong. Persons that shift their views based on the current situation, well remind me of greasy politicians. Kofi hasn't towed the line in the sense about the war.

This was why I said my comments were sarcastic.

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Originally posted by solarflare
Even when you agree you disagree!

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There is a big difference between political and technical feasibility. The war could be easily won by bombarding Bagdad with carpet bombardments, cluster bombs, MOAB's, napalm strikes etc. without major technical consequences. But the political consequences of this would be enormous.

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Originally posted by solarflare
Nobody likes having their words thrown back at them, but you should really take your own advice here. Those missiles could be Iraqi, Iranian, or Coalition forces. All three groups have motives. All three groups have means. Don't rule them out, don't single one out.

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I don't rule them out, I said it is (very) unlikely they are Iraqi or Iranian. Iraq due to the shear limited number fired by them (seems like less than 10) and Iran due to the political and military consequences if it would turn out NOT to be an American/British missile.

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Originally posted by Simon666
it is (very) unlikely they are Iraqi or Iranian. Iraq due to the shear limited number fired by them (seems like less than 10) and Iran due to the political and military consequences if it would turn out NOT to be an American/British missile.

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But the members of the Iraqi regime know they're falling, wouldn't they take this opportunity over any other to shoot off a missile at their greatest Middle Eastern enemy, the Iranians? And as for Iran, they could have done it to stage it to look like either the US or Iraq did it, for sympathy. But it is also likely that it was an American shot.

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Originally posted by solarflare

But the members of the Iraqi regime know they're falling, wouldn't they take this opportunity over any other to shoot off a missile at their greatest Middle Eastern enemy, the Iranians? And as for Iran, they could have done it to stage it to look like either the US or Iraq did it, for sympathy. But it is also likely that it was an American shot.

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No, they would, if they could launch a missle towards Israel. Iran, kuwait, Saudi Arabia, would be a secondary target. And remember I said if they 'could'...right now, I think the US has a good control over western Iraq. Pac3's are a nice addition. I did my part so to speak, glad to see progress in that area.