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It's freezing here as well. I heard someone yesterday wondering if we would have snow. And snow is something rare enough in Ireland to be an event. And with the very strong wind we have, it seems even more freezing.
And no, I have not changed my avatar (just a little for the chrismas period, back to the drinkin' smiley :D ), even though it's still not my own picture.
Xeon, I certainly hope you did not design your calendar planner around your own calendar!:DQuote:
Originally posted by CBasicNet
Probably according to Xeon's year length, IT is 24 years...
BUT HEY, 24 years ago, Xeon has not come to this world yet; he is only turning 19 this year.:rolleyes:
:D
Oh wait! I get it! You are trying to monopolise the world with your own calendar format!!!
New calendar on the block :Xeon's calendar
Gregorian calendar
Hegira calendar
Chinese Lunar calendar
Umm....
Yes I know, for your avatar. It's too bad 'cause it looks nice. ;o)
They promised snow last night, and nothing... But we have (how do we say "verglas" in english??) frozen bits of road. ;)
It's ike I'm back in Sweden, except there is no snow. :(
Xeon's calendar planner : every day there is a notice :
AfxMessageBox("Where were you? It has been a month!");
:D
Changed my avatar again to the original if it makes you feel comfortable. If you say : "Oh my God, what is that thing?" and/or "Keep that thing away from me!" I could change it back, just ask me. :D
Hi Marina :)
its freezing now in Belarus - near -20 and near -27 last night, enough snowing to :)
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Ops... It is of course no big problem, but I have seen just now that my counter does not change if I post message. Now it is = 189.
Sorry for next empty pm, it is just for test.
Is it again 189?
Ok, may be it is frezed :D
Posts in this forum no longer count. See the sticky on top from Brad.
From Simon:
Stop calling the gurls here as old hags, Simon. There's only 2 real gurls in Codeguru outta the 84000++ members. It's already darn pathetic, k? :D:DQuote:
The meaning when used for women is usually in conjunction with 'oud' or old, so 'old tart'. Meaning something not very flattering, like an old hag in English.
From Marina:
Well, if you wish, I can do an avatar for you. Just tell me exactly what you want. And no. I've no strings attached. It's just that I don't wanna code all the time. :cool:Quote:
As everybody has changed his avatar, I'd like to find another one for me. I don't want to be the last one with my picture there.
Whoa! Do gurlz have such big egos too?!! :eek::eek:Quote:
Ok Xeon, I understand how much you missed me
From CBasic.Net:
Well, you're not being a real man, Basic pal. Just because you know my plans doesn't mean you gotta advertise it! Now, Simon and Solar's gonna turn the tables on me! :DQuote:
Xeon, I certainly hope you did not design your calendar planner around your own calendar!
Oh wait! I get it! You are trying to monopolise the world with your own calendar format!!!
From Simon(666 + 0 + 0 + 1 - 1):
Whoa! U change your avatar just to make Marina feel comfortable?! U're too serious and crazy!Quote:
Changed my avatar again to the original if it makes you feel comfortable. If you say : "Oh my God, what is that thing?" and/or "Keep that thing away from me!" I could change it back, just ask me.
(sings)
The Power Of Love(/sings) :o
But seriously,.......OH my gosh! Kill the flies and pull the hair! Beat the chest and roar like mad! What's that horrible thing in your avatar, Simon???!! :eek::D
I just like hers the way it is.Quote:
Originally posted by Xeon
Whoa! U change your avatar just to make Marina feel comfortable?! U're too serious and crazy!
Dogs bark, wolves howl, glasses break. :D I've seen to much video footage on TV of atonal Asian karaoke singers.Quote:
Originally posted by Xeon
(sings)The Power Of Love(/sings) :o
I know. You're lucky the picture is not taken from in front. If you know Greek mythology you would experience the "Medusa effect". :D Nah, just kidding. It is not as bad as waking up with your face Xeon. :pQuote:
Originally posted by Xeon
But seriously,.......OH my gosh! Kill the flies and pull the hair! Beat the chest and roar like mad! What's that horrible thing in your avatar, Simon???!! :eek::D
Here, around 8ºC-2ºC... :) :DQuote:
Originally posted by Marina Vaillant
It's freezing here in France, how is it around you??
But, it will be more cold.
Yes, it's cold also in Madrid. Not as much as in Belarus, but for me this is enough. Yesterday I saw the snow for the second time in my life, and I walked down the street while it was snowing for the first time. It's lovely, but too cold for me...
Anyway, I've just read that we're only two real women among all the CodeGuru members... are you sure?. I can count up to five at least. And I'm new here!
:D
Ana-
Hi Ana :)Quote:
Originally posted by saturno7
Yes, it's cold also in Madrid. Not as much as in Belarus, but for me this is enough. Yesterday I saw the snow for the second time in my life, and I walked down the street while it was snowing for the first time. It's lovely, but too cold for me...
Anyway, I've just read that we're only two real women among all the CodeGuru members... are you sure?. I can count up to five at least. And I'm new here!
:D
Ana-
In Madrid it have snowed many times, I have seen snow more than two times... where do you live? in San Sebastian?
And yes... here it is quite cold :D
No, Irona, I've lived in Madrid for the last seven years, but I'm from the Canary Islands. Now it's clear, isn't it? :p
And I missed their wheather so much...
Ana.
Of course there ar emore than two. You'll understand when you will know Xeon :PQuote:
Originally posted by saturno7
Anyway, I've just read that we're only two real women among all the CodeGuru members... are you sure?. I can count up to five at least. And I'm new here!
But these two are the only women that have actively participated in here.
On the other hand, don't think one is a women because its avatar shows the picture of a woman. It's not always true :D
:D :D :D :D :D Completely clear!!! :)Quote:
Originally posted by saturno7
No, Irona, I've lived in Madrid for the last seven years, but I'm from the Canary Islands. Now it's clear, isn't it? :p
And I missed their wheather so much...
Ana.
You must be more cold than me :D
We seem to be three women here.
So you think that maybe some members of the forum are pretending to be women but are men. And what about women pretending to be men?. Couldn't that be also possible?.Quote:
Originally posted by Elrond
On the other hand, don't think one is a women because its avatar shows the picture of a woman. It's not always true :D
:D
Ana
Some men could pretend being women. It's not that I think some do but it might happen. :(Quote:
Originally posted by saturno7
So you think that maybe some members of the forum are pretending to be women but are men. And what about women pretending to be men?. Couldn't that be also possible?.
:D
Ana
Some men have woman picture as avatar just because they like the picture. :D
It's possible that some women prented to be man as well. :confused:
Most people just don't pretend anything, and that makes it kind of impossible to know if they are one or the other.
Mostly we don't really care (except Xeon). For the technical forums it does not change anything. For the non technical forums (expecially here) it can make a difference as women often have a different point of view on things, and it's always good to see things through different points of view. Except for that reason I don't care wheither there are only men or not on this forum. :cool:
It is easier to spot women in French forums as the language shows sometimes a little difference in the spelling wheither the person who writes is a man or a woman. And you rarely make a mistake in this case about who is one or the other. :)
But as this forum is not exactly made to have people go out with other people, it doesn't really change anything.
I'm really glad to read that for the technical forums this question doesn't really matter. And yes, in spanish it would be more noticeable than in english if you're a man or a woman - as long as you're not playing a fiction role.Quote:
Originally posted by Elrond
Mostly we don't really care (except Xeon). For the technical forums it does not change anything. For the non technical forums (expecially here) it can make a difference as women often have a different point of view on things, and it's always good to see things through different points of view. Except for that reason I don't care wheither there are only men or not on this forum. :cool:
For me, it doesn't matter either. I was just joking about the possibility. :)
Ana.
I have to disagree. Women are less capable. Will you nominate me for dumbest codeguru now? :DQuote:
Originally posted by saturno7
I'm really glad to read that for the technical forums this question doesn't really matter.
No seriously, what else did you expect Elrond to write?
Xeon, your calendar is ingenious! You could market it as "Y3K proof" and whatnot. Or say that it makes time fly. Or whatever. Okay maybe is isn't as great as I had originally thought, but still good. Decent.
From Simon666:
Yucks! And that's all??!!! I thought you look much worse than the Medusa? Or maybe you're Medusa Verion 2.01 with Belgium Codecs??!!! :D:eek:Quote:
I know. You're lucky the picture is not taken from in front. If you know Greek mythology you would experience the "Medusa effect". Nah, just kidding. It is not as bad as waking up with your face Xeon.
From Saturno:
Whoa! Saturn, the female goddess of Spain or what! Ummm...now, Irona....shouldn't her name be Saturna or something? I thought in Spanish, women have 'a's in their names, and men have 'o's, as in Irona and Irono.(and Xeona and Xeono; or Elronda and Elrondno; or Marina and Marino)Quote:
Anyway, I've just read that we're only two real women among all the CodeGuru members... are you sure?. I can count up to five at least. And I'm new here!
Ummm...."Miss", you probably gave yourself away! :p
U're a man!!!!!
From Wise Old Elrond:
Elrond! Great and noble minds think alike! Our hearts beat as one! U understand me too well! :)Quote:
Of course there ar emore than two. You'll understand when you will know Xeon :P
But these two are the only women that have actively participated in here.
Well, right. Although there's more than 15 gurls outta the entire 86000++ member base, only 1 **** is counted as "existant".
The others are all non-existant.
Marina doesn't count because she has been away for centuries.
Saturna doesn't count either, cos' she new.
AmyYeech doesn't count too, because she doesn't post too often.
SilverGirl doesn't count too, because she has never been heard of again.
Maggie May doesn't count too, because she's never heard from again either.
So, we all know who is really consistent and is counted, right? ;)
Yes, right. And there's some men who pretend to be gurls because they think more male programmers would help them.(especially in my case.....I PAY MORE attention to female posters than male posters):DQuote:
Some men could pretend being women. It's not that I think some do but it might happen.
Some men have woman picture as avatar just because they like the picture.
Whoa! Really?! In French, can u tell by the language/sentence whether it's typed by a **** or man??!!! This is awesome!Quote:
It is easier to spot women in French forums as the language shows sometimes a little difference in the spelling wheither the person who writes is a man or a woman. And you rarely make a mistake in this case about who is one or the other
To think that French has OOP built into it : the sentences take care of themselves and it's has a good design. :D
From Solar:
Thank you, Solar pal! I'll be sure to make your name the focus of all attention. :)Quote:
Xeon, your calendar is ingenious! You could market it as "Y3K proof" and whatnot. Or say that it makes time fly. Or whatever. Okay maybe is isn't as great as I had originally thought, but still good. Decent.
Xeon's idea for new thread: "are you tall or short, and answer it in french!" Now, if people say "je suis petite/je suis grande," they are women, and if "je suis petit/je suis grand," they are male, and if "je suis peti/je suis gran," they don't speak french.Quote:
Originally posted by Xeon
Whoa! Really?! In French, can u tell by the language/sentence whether it's typed by a **** or man??!!! This is awesome!
To think that French has OOP built into it : the sentences take care of themselves and it's has a good design. :D
Yes!!! Awesome.Quote:
Originally posted by Xeon
Thank you, Solar pal! I'll be sure to make your name the focus of all attention. :)
From Solar:
My! French boy! Ohhh......how sexy! How erotic! Arrggh! U're making me.......errr.....no. I'm a real boy, sorry. :D:D:DQuote:
Xeon's idea for new thread: "are you tall or short, and answer it in french!" Now, if people say "je suis petite/je suis grande," they are women, and if "je suis petit/je suis grand," they are male, and if "je suis peti/je suis gran," they don't speak french.
By the way, do u learn French, Solar?
Yes, but remember : The entire Europe + 600 gurls from everywhere on the planet for me when you've conqured the Omnibetaverse. :):):)Quote:
Yes!!! Awesome.
:D :D :DQuote:
Originally posted by solarflare
Xeon's idea for new thread: "are you tall or short, and answer it in french!" Now, if people say "je suis petite/je suis grande," they are women, and if "je suis petit/je suis grand," they are male, and if "je suis peti/je suis gran," they don't speak french.
If "je suis peti/je suis gran," occurs, we would know Platinum Plus is back. :D
Solarflare, don't get any ideas. Xeon prematurely finished his sentence. It would have been "Thank you, Solar pal! I'll be sure to make your name the focus of all attention right underneath Simon's name in 48 point font flashing color." At least it would better be that Xeon forgot that part, otherwise he could be dead meat.Quote:
Originally posted by Xeon
Thank you, Solar pal! I'll be sure to make your name the focus of all attention.
Now you are dead meat. If you have never shown a picture of yourself as regular member for a number of years, it is not unreasonable to assume you are even more hidious than me. :pQuote:
Originally posted by Xeon
Yucks! And that's all??!!! I thought you look much worse than the Medusa? Or maybe you're Medusa Verion 2.01 with Belgium Codecs??!!!
Xeon, you're lucky that my english is not so good as to see second meanings in your sentences.Quote:
Originally posted by Xeon
From Saturno:
Whoa! Saturn, the female goddess of Spain or what! Ummm...now, Irona....shouldn't her name be Saturna or something? I thought in Spanish, women have 'a's in their names, and men have 'o's, as in Irona and Irono.(and Xeona and Xeono; or Elronda and Elrondno; or Marina and Marino)
Ummm...."Miss", you probably gave yourself away! :p
U're a man!!!!!
There was a band called Inspiral Carpets a few years ago in England, which made one excellent album called Devil Hoping. They had a song called Saturn 5, which I really love, and, the first time I was going to make myself a mail account I decided to choose a variation of this name. So, the result is Saturno7.
And yes, in Spain the female names usually end by A, as my own, which is ANA. But not always, so be aware of not making strange mistakes... sometimes male names also end by A.
:D :D :D
Hi ANA aka Saturno 7. Nice to see here new **** ( ooo **** is girl but with our special meaning ).
So Welcome! :)
From Saturn:
Good. That means if I curse you indirectly and stuff, you wouldn't get angry, right? If you agree, I'm gonna be really nasty to you, unless the moderators tell me to stop.:p And oh. U need to pay me, Simon666 and Solar US$2000 because you're a newcomer. It's da' rules of the game, sonny. I don't care what you do, though. :D:cool:Quote:
Xeon, you're lucky that my english is not so good as to see second meanings in your sentences.
Actually, Ana a.k.a Saturna a.k.a. The Ringed Planetary ****....u're just like Irona, and u 2 are from Madrid, from the same country, same region and same planet within the same solar system, which in turn is within the same galaxy which is within the current time, space, dimension and universe, and which all belongs under the OmniBetaverse.Quote:
There was a band called Inspiral Carpets a few years ago in England, which made one excellent album called Devil Hoping. They had a song called Saturn 5, which I really love, and, the first time I was going to make myself a mail account I decided to choose a variation of this name. So, the result is Saturno7.
And you 2 are really crazy about music, eh? I bet Devil Hopping is one of those Heavy Metal bands? :):p
By the way, don't you think Saturn7 is a better Codeguru ID? I mean, it's sexier, cooler and romantic, you know. Something like a goddess withi rings around her. :)Quote:
And yes, in Spain the female names usually end by A, as my own, which is ANA. But not always, so be aware of not making strange mistakes... sometimes male names also end by A.
Don't mind the begging for money. Xeon probably in one of those slums. :D As a newcomer : I have some better advice : request Xeon's profile, go to the bottom right and select "Add Xeon to Your Ignore List". In the beginning I did that too for a while.Quote:
Originally posted by Xeon
Good. That means if I curse you indirectly and stuff, you wouldn't get angry, right? If you agree, I'm gonna be really nasty to you, unless the moderators tell me to stop.:p And oh. U need to pay me, Simon666 and Solar US$2000 because you're a newcomer. It's da' rules of the game, sonny. I don't care what you do, though.
You should know Xeon is a bit crazy. He seems to take solarflare seriously. That explains the wacko talk. Xeon, stop bothering newcomers with that stuff.Quote:
Originally posted by Xeon
Actually, Ana a.k.a Saturna a.k.a. The Ringed Planetary ****....u're just like Irona, and u 2 are from Madrid, from the same country, same region and same planet within the same solar system, which in turn is within the same galaxy which is within the current time, space, dimension and universe, and which all belongs under the OmniBetaverse.
Saturn was the oldest Roman god if I remember correctly who ate his children. That painting is a famous painting by Goya. There is thus little 'sexy' about it.Quote:
Originally posted by Xeon
By the way, don't you think Saturn7 is a better Codeguru ID? I mean, it's sexier, cooler and romantic, you know. Something like a goddess withi rings around her. :)
From Simon:
Well Ana, I'm not gonna try to clear my name. After all that I've done for newcomers like you, Ana....such as making the Codeguru access speed faster and such, you're collaborating with Simon to over-throw me! Sigh......I'm really disappointed in you, Saturn. Of all things....sign! :oQuote:
Don't mind the begging for money. Xeon probably in one of those slums. As a newcomer : I have some better advice : request Xeon's profile, go to the bottom right and select "Add Xeon to Your Ignore List". In the beginning I did that too for a while.
Fine then. But....aye! :oQuote:
You should know Xeon is a bit crazy. He seems to take solarflare seriously. That explains the wacko talk. Xeon, stop bothering newcomers with that stuff.
Simon......maybe I gotta explain the meaning of "Creativity" for you.Quote:
Saturn was the oldest Roman god if I remember correctly who ate his children. That painting is a famous painting by Goya. There is thus little 'sexy' about it.
Assume you've a wife. If you keep buying the same old flowers and trying the same old tricks to please her, don't be suprise if she goes off with another man. Let's face it.
Now, assume you're a different person and have the same kind of wife.
Now, instead of trying the same old darn tricks to please her, you use creative ways.
For example, bring her to a park. Then, while u 2 are walking halfway, pretend you've a heart attack. Then, when she gets anxious and stuff, you tell her this :
"Actually, sweetie....I got a heart-attack cos' u're just too pretty. I'm really sorry, but...."
Understand the true meaning now, Simon! Aye~! :o:o:o
Thank you, Dimitry, you're nice. And what's that special meaning of ****?. I've been wanting to ask since I starting browsing the forum, and I guess I don't really want to know, but anyway...Quote:
Originally posted by dimm_coder
Hi ANA aka Saturno 7. Nice to see here new **** ( ooo **** is girl but with our special meaning ).
So Welcome! :)
Xeon, my English is not very good, but I'm not stupid, if you start cursing me I will get really angry. Anyway, I think this discussion leads to nowhere except me getting annoyed and things like that. I'm not going to pay anything to anyone for being a newcomer. But, I'm not going to put your name in my ignore list either, I don't like that kind of things. :mad: :DQuote:
Originally posted by Xeon
Good. That means if I curse you indirectly and stuff, you wouldn't get angry, right? If you agree, I'm gonna be really nasty to you, unless the moderators tell me to stop. And oh. U need to pay me, Simon666 and Solar US$2000 because you're a newcomer. It's da' rules of the game, sonny. I don't care what you do, though.
Thank you, Simon, for the explanations about Xeon, but don't worry, I've been in the forum for nearly two months now and I already knew about him. I still don't know the meaning of "****" but nothing good can be thougth after him using that word aaaall the time. ;)
I knew the painting by Goya, and I didn't choose the username because of the god, just because of that song. Saturn7 was already used, so I had to add the o (in spanish, the name of the god and the planet is Saturno). And, NO, Xeon, Devil Hoping is an album and not a band, and they used to play pop and not heavy metal.
See you... :)
Ana.
Maybe you need to be more "creative" in choosing your metaphores. What are you rambling about?Quote:
Originally posted by Xeon
Simon......maybe I gotta explain the meaning of "Creativity" for you.
Assume you've a wife. If you keep buying the same old flowers and trying the same old tricks to please her, don't be suprise if she goes off with another man. Let's face it.
Now, assume you're a different person and have the same kind of wife.
Now, instead of trying the same old darn tricks to please her, you use creative ways.
For example, bring her to a park. Then, while u 2 are walking halfway, pretend you've a heart attack. Then, when she gets anxious and stuff, you tell her this :
"Actually, sweetie....I got a heart-attack cos' u're just too pretty. I'm really sorry, but...."
Understand the true meaning now, Simon! Aye~! :o:o:o
Oh, and saturno7 : gurls has no special meaning other than girls if I'm not mistaking. It appears to be often used however which you can note by typing 'gurls' on Google. If you type it in in conjunction with Singapore one could note that it is probably frequently spelled like that in discussion forums over there. Xeon seems to have made it his trademark of misspelling it.
There are also many Chinese here, hehe.
Welcome, Saturno7! I see you've already taken to ignoring Xeon. Excellent idea. If you don't understand it, or if it seems too fantastical, or involves the word "gurls" or "gurlz", then he's only kidding and you can ignore him. Xeon's used to being ignored, except by eccentrics like me 'n Simon.
From Saturn7:
First of all, Saturn pal. I hate to say this, but really, I hope you're not a moderator or something. I mean, I'm just kidding totally, so relax! Do u really think I'm gonna be that nasty as to curse you?! :eek:Quote:
Xeon, my English is not very good, but I'm not stupid, if you start cursing me I will get really angry. Anyway, I think this discussion leads to nowhere except me getting annoyed and things like that. I'm not going to pay anything to anyone for being a newcomer. But, I'm not going to put your name in my ignore list either, I don't like that kind of things.
And yes. U had better not put my name on the ignore list, because I can provide special opinions and such when you need it. :cool:
God! U're mistaking the good guy for the bad guy and the bad guy(Simon) for the good guy!(me)Quote:
Thank you, Simon, for the explanations about Xeon, but don't worry, I've been in the forum for nearly two months now and I already knew about him. I still don't know the meaning of "****" but nothing good can be thougth after him using that word aaaall the time.
And ok. Here's my explanation about "gurls".
Firstly, 'A' stands for Apple, and it's the first alphabet outta the 26 alphabets.
Now, say 'A' for 'Apple'.
Yes, good. Again? Yes. 'A' for 'Apple!'
Good.
Now, on to 'gurls'.
'Gurls' has nothing to do with Singapore or anything. 'Girls' is the correct spelling, but it's not sexy or sweet enough. I prefer to do things more passionately, if you understand. And there's this thing called "gals" too, but it's even worse than "gurls". That's why.
Child......do not listen to Satanic music. Why must you destroy your life in this manner?(this applies to Simon too)Quote:
I knew the painting by Goya, and I didn't choose the username because of the god, just because of that song. Saturn7 was already used, so I had to add the o (in spanish, the name of the god and the planet is Saturno). And, NO, Xeon, Devil Hoping is an album and not a band, and they used to play pop and not heavy metal.
In the name of Jesus, and in the name of God Himself.....isn't it better to do good things like caring for babies, making gurls happy, helping the needy and doing meaningful things?
Now, Saturn and Simon......you 2 were born into this world innocent, pure and sweet. But look at what Satanic music has done to you both. You mistreate and abuse good people like me, because your heart finds them annoying.
Aye~!
Son and Daughter.....give up before it's too late. The Devil is hopping up to Earth from the Pit to make you both pay back. There is still hope, children.
After all, is there not a saying that goes, "Those who make deals with the Devil will pay back in the end"?
Children of Adam and Eve.....listen to me. There is still hope. Pull yourself up again and do good things. The Lord is up there watching you. Forget about becoming a jumping devil or a ghoul.
And forget about being the Great Beast 666. All these are evil.
By Father Xeon, the Grand Preacher. :o
So so so...
Pals, stop abusing one another.
And, Saturna, do not listen Simon or Solarflare about Xeon, if really, I begin to think, that they cannot live without each other :):D.
Xeon is a bit crazy, of course, but Xeon is Xeon, and nothing else matters. He has been making some special colorite for this thread and it is not so bad.
Do not "take for heart" his words, take it like joke mostly and that all will be OK!
Opps, Simon && Solar, I hope, that I haven't told something bad for U, in other case, U can think about me like about another one a bit crazy... ohh how it will be :rolleyes: ... ooo - da'man .. :)
Or and U can add me to list of "mostly dumbest Codeguru members" and vote for me ;):D
:p
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Ohh, Simon, I have some questions about high education in other countries, for ex. about PhD and other to compare with system in my country, and If U are not angry about me, may be I can ask U to explain me about it? :)
:D :D :D :DQuote:
Originally posted by Xeon
Now, Saturn and Simon......you 2 were born into this world innocent, pure and sweet. But look at what Satanic music has done to you both. You mistreate and abuse good people like me, because your heart finds them annoying.
Aye~!
Son and Daughter.....give up before it's too late. The Devil is hopping up to Earth from the Pit to make you both pay back. There is still hope, children.
OK, Xeon, I give up. I refuse to explain to you anything more about the music I like and things like that. Also I'm not wondering anymore about the meaning of gurls, I prefer to believe you and live in peace with the Universe.... :p
We'll see when he's gone.Quote:
Originally posted by dimm_coder
And, Saturna, do not listen Simon or Solarflare about Xeon, if really, I begin to think, that they cannot live without each other.
Your English is not that good isn't it? A bit means not much, a lot means much. Try to use the correct word next time. :p :DQuote:
Originally posted by dimm_coder
Xeon is a bit crazy,...
Ofcourse I'm not angry at you. What do you wish to know about it? Financing, duration?Quote:
Originally posted by dimm_coder
Ohh, Simon, I have some questions about high education in other countries, for ex. about PhD and other to compare with system in my country, and If U are not angry about me, may be I can ask U to explain me about it? :)
The duration of a PhD obtained with a grant in my country can be minimum 2 and maximum 4 years. Mine can be done in minimum three years due to the peculiarities of the grant I have. I you do not have a grant and e.g. do your PhD along your other work it can basically last as long as it takes I think. We have someone at our department who started with it around 8 years ago.
For grants there are several institution which sponsor scientific research. You need to apply for this, prepare a case, and defend this for a commission. You need to have already made a planning and tell what is can be useful for and how you think you will be able to reach your objectives. Personally I think this is more or less ridiculous (apart from telling the use) as you can't really know what you'll find during your PhD and as planning this over a number of years is also questionable.
You can also get a grant from the university without having to defend this if your promotor signs a form stating your profile is OK and he/she has reason to believe you will be able to fulfill your PhD. This is something which I have I think. People have arranged it for me, I do not know the exact details. Let me know what you are interested in.
Ok, U know my English is enough bad and I think that text, I wrote, has enough other mistakes, so sorry. Next some month when I will have more free time (only work without Univ studing), I go for some English courses, to increase my level. But if it be exactly right :) , I know that bit and lot are means, it was only "fade of my brains". :)Quote:
Originally posted by Simon666
Your English is not that good isn't it? A bit means not much, a lot means much. Try to use the correct word next time. :p :D
Ok, I will write my questions some later and if U want we can compare education systems of our countries then.Quote:
Let me know what you are interested in.
Now, what I have mean about PhD.
PhD is a sciense level and PhD - Philosophy Doctor, am I right?
But I want to compare it with our levels.
!!!Sorry, for not right English syntax of some termins.
We have next:
5 years of University studing - high education + may be bacalaver(if U have some average diploma ( > 4.5 if I right remember );
+ 1 year - magister level
or
+ 3 year ( or > ) - aspiranture. And U can get "candidate of science" level. You can get this level only if U will defend your aspirants final work ( some scintific work ). May be it is like your PhD?
And the most high level - is Doctor Of Science
( for ex. Doctor of physical-mathematical sciences ).
And I interesting in education process in University of Europe, but as I have said, we will discuss it some later, if U want :)
I know that, I was just kidding that Xeon is completely crazy.Quote:
Originally posted by dimm_coder
I know that bit and lot are means, it was only "fade of my brains". :)
I searched it once : it indeed means Doctor of Philosophy. I wonder what the philosophy has to do with it. In my country it is just called 'Doctoraat'.Quote:
Originally posted by dimm_coder
PhD is a science level and PhD - Philosophy Doctor, am I right?
What are those?Quote:
Originally posted by dimm_coder
5 years of University studing - high education + may be bacalaver
+ 1 year - magister level
or
+ 3 year or more - aspiranture.
Seems like aspiranture corresponds with a doctorate in my country.Quote:
Originally posted by dimm_coder
And U can get "candidate of science" level. You can get this level only if U will defend your aspirants final work ( some scientific work ). May be it is like your PhD?
We don't give extra levels. A PhD in History is considered has the same degree as one in material sciences for example. Although I think exact sciences are worth more than philosophy for example. Please don't attack me on the latter, I've had discussions with Elrond on that subject already.Quote:
Originally posted by dimm_coder
And the most high level - is Doctor Of Science ( for ex. Doctor of physical-mathematical sciences ).
That's strange. I could accept that our "doctorat" diploma is translated by PhD, even if I never studied philosophy (ok, one small year). But learning here that there is a Doctor of Science level, which is higher than the PhD!! I find it revolting!
I wonder why all students and teachers of non scientist area have not demonstrated to make those labels change!!!
I have no doubt it is only labels, and have nothing to do with what is studied , but still...
mmm, by the way, I don't have a PhD. :o)
In France we start studying after the baccalaureat (before, we learn!).
And we categorize the difference in years of study, like you can say I'm Bac+5, Bob is Bac+2, Marie is Bac + 10 (well, here she must be studying medecine, and then will not really say this, until she is negociating for being better paid).
You mainly have stages at Bac+2 : University diploma , BTS (Elrond, help me I don't remember what those letters mean), think this level is undergraduate in british system?
Bac + 3 is a licence, then you can start teacher school if you want
Bac + 4 is ... master, magister? people are supposed to call you master, :)
Bac+5 is engineer whether you did them at the university or in an engineer school
Then you can start the PhD stuff... First one year to prepare it (it can be done with the 5th year of engineer school). Then 3 years which I can't detail much, but includes searching, teaching in university sometimes, publishing articles, and writing a thesis.
Then you are a doctor!
I know in Germany a Professor is better than a doctor, can any german explain it to me?
Marina
I'm no german, but let me try explaining it: a doctor is someone who made a post-university study (Doktorat, in german) -- that is like a reasearch work over a couple of years, with a dissertation.Quote:
Originally posted by Marina Vaillant
I know in Germany a Professor is better than a doctor, can any german explain it to me?
A professor is someone teaching at the university. It is a title accorded as a recognition of the vast experience in that particular field and so on. Mostly, someone studying to become a doctor has a professor as a mentor. And btw. most professors (if not all of them) have a doctor title.
By the way, I can't give you much detailed information about the education after you're 18 as it is currently being reformed in the light of the Bologna-Sorbonne agreements.
Higher education currently is 3 years for a graduate, 4 years for 'licentiaat' (among which industrial engineer) and 5 years for bio- and civil engineer. For a docter the medical studies take 7 years. That was the situation until now.
Now they want to reform licentiate and engineer studies (don't know what happens to graduate and medical studies) to a bachelor-master conform the Bologna-Sorbonne agreements. There is still a lot of talk whether this should be a 4+1 or a 3+2 system or both depending on the study. So basicly you would be able to study 3-4 years for having a bachelor degree after which you can start working or continue for 2-1 years for specialising and obtaining a master degree.
There are two big reasons why they want 4+1 instead of 3+2 system. One of them is that for some studies, it is difficult to see all the stuff you need in 3 years because e.g. you need to see a lot of theory before you can specialize into a master study, but with all this theory you're not much when you graduate as bachelor and want to start working in the industry. Another reason is the fear of the goverment that in a 3+2 system nearly everyone would want to choose for the full five years making education more expensive for the state.
Oh, and in Belgium you do not need to do an extra time for preparing, this is optional. Because of the cost cuts and because not many people do it, it has been cut since this year. And you need to be a doctor (not demanded, but usually it goes that way) before you can become a professor. Professors are not better than doctors, but take me on my word they usually feel better. :rolleyes: :p
In Spain is rather similar: you need to be a doctor (i.e. having made a doctoral thesis, which is such a 2 years research and work) to be a university professor, even when there are other kind of teachers in University that are not Doctors (so they earn much less money).
Here the University takes 3, 4, 5 or 6 years (this last one is just for medical students. If you study for 3 years you are a 'Diplomado' (is it a graduate?) and if you study for 4 or more, you are a 'Licenciado', what I guess is a bachelor. For technical degrees, you can study 3 years and be a Technical Engineer or 4 or 5 years and be a Superior Engineer (that's what I am as I studied for 5 years - well, it took me 7 years to finish, but it's supposed to be 5 even if nobody does it in 5).
There are other kind of studies - non university ones - which you can choose after the primary school. These are the technical schools which at the moment are gaining popularity. There are also different degrees among them, but I don't know much about it.
Ana.
From Dimm:
Dimm! U make me cry!:(Quote:
So so so...
Pals, stop abusing one another.
And, Saturna, do not listen Simon or Solarflare about Xeon, if really, I begin to think, that they cannot live without each other .
Xeon is a bit crazy, of course, but Xeon is Xeon, and nothing else matters. He has been making some special colorite for this thread and it is not so bad.
Do not "take for heart" his words, take it like joke mostly and that all will be OK!
I'm so touched! Ohhh.......what is better than a true pal! :)
Argh.....ohh-oh.....ahhh.....tis'.....so...too.....touchin'.....arrg...my heart is.....is breakin.....breaking......argh boo hoo hoo! No.....this can't be true. I'm so.....so touched. :(
From Saturno:
Yes, right! Believe me and be a good ****! Instead of robbing the poor to help the rich, rob the rich to aid the poor! Instead of abusing me to earn money, you gotta abuse yourself to earn money. That's the point. :cool:Quote:
OK, Xeon, I give up. I refuse to explain to you anything more about the music I like and things like that. Also I'm not wondering anymore about the meaning of gurls, I prefer to believe you and live in peace with the Universe....
From Simon:
Simon! Do not abuse my good lord. If you do, see me on the battlefield, and I can assure you that only one of us is gonna walk out by sunset. The other will......you get it. :cool::cool:Quote:
Your English is not that good isn't it? A bit means not much, a lot means much. Try to use the correct word next time
No I don't. :confused: The other will:Quote:
Originally posted by Xeon
The other will......you get it. :cool::cool:
Code:
1. Have to cook dinner for the winner and wash his clothes.
Yikes
2. Have to eat the dinner cooked by the winner, chicken chops.
Even more yikes.
3. Have to go out on a dinner with Avril Lavigne.
Bwaarrrkkss...my intestines finally came out.
Whoa Xeon! Cool avatar!
Simon, I think what Xeon meant is that the winner would get to pick the loser's new avatar. In other words, if Xeon won, you'd end up with his current one.
From Sinmon:
Bah! Bah! BAH! Boooo! :p:pQuote:
Have to go out on a dinner with Avril Lavigne.
Bwaarrrkkss...my intestines finally came out.
Simon, just because you're not lucky enough to be her boyfriend doesn't mean that you should get angry at her. Aye~!:rolleyes:
Ever heard of the fox who says that the grapes are sour just cos' he can't reach 'em? :cool:
From Solar:
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Whoa Xeon! Cool avatar![/quote]
Yes! Great and wonderful minds think alike. :)
It's only normal men who prefer Avril to other female stars. :cool:
No! The original uncompleted sentence actually is :Quote:
Simon, I think what Xeon meant is that the winner would get to pick the loser's new avatar. In other words, if Xeon won, you'd end up with his current one.
Simon! Do not abuse my good lord. If you do, see me on the battlefield, and I can assure you that only one of us is gonna walk out by sunset. The other will lie dead on the ground with his face towards the Pit.
:cool::cool::)
Actually, the complete unaltered version is:Quote:
Originally posted by Xeon
Simon! Do not abuse my good lord. If you do, see me on the battlefield, and I can assure you that only one of us is gonna walk out by sunset. The other will lie dead on the ground with his face towards the Pit.
Simon! Do not abuse my good lord. If you do, see me ont the battlefield, and I can assure you that only one of us is gonna walk out by sunset. The other will pretend to be sleeping so as to confuse Xeon and sneak out when taken for dead.
From Solar:
Nah! To make sure that my opponent is really dead, I shall do various tests on him. :):):):):):)Quote:
Actually, the complete unaltered version is:
Simon! Do not abuse my good lord. If you do, see me ont the battlefield, and I can assure you that only one of us is gonna walk out by sunset. The other will pretend to be sleeping so as to confuse Xeon and sneak out when taken for dead.