Every force has to have an equal in force and opposite in direction...black/white, right/wrong, ying/yang, good/bad whatever you want to call it.
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Every force has to have an equal in force and opposite in direction...black/white, right/wrong, ying/yang, good/bad whatever you want to call it.
It doesn't make much sense though, for a Superior Being existing inside a lesser being. Besides that, the word "being" can also mean: a person, "One's basic or essential nature; personality."Quote:
Originally Posted by Vanaj
Q: Life with religion and Life without religion. Which do you choose? Why and Why not the other one?
What do you mean by "religion"... are you referring to a specific religion, or in the belief of a Higher/Superior/Supreme Being?Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Payne
I'm not refering to any specific religion, as long its a belief of GOD. and religion is not just believing in GOD, but rules/advice of how to live the life.
People rely on the bible so much. I am not saying its a bad thing, its just that there are so many inconsitencies written in the bible that you doubt if its even true. Why? because its still written by a human being and human beings are prone to mistakes.
What is religion but a systems of beliefs held to with ardor and faith. Life without religion? A life without beliefs or faith ? Is that called a life at all?.
A: I choose life with religion. Its pretty much self-explanatory, I believe. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Payne
Good point Ideru. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ideru
Well, the Bible claims that even though it was handwritten by humans, the message that they wrote is not from their own, but from God:Speaking of that particular book, I have found this brochure entitled: A Book for All People. Let me share with you people the what it says on the first section:Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Peter 1:20-21
The rest of the sections are:Quote:
A Book to Be Read
“The Bible is not to be taken seriously.” So said a university professor to a plainspoken young woman.
“Have you ever read the Bible?” she asked.
Taken aback, the professor had to admit that he had not.
“How can you voice a strong conviction about a book that you have never read?”
She had a point. He decided to read the Bible and then form an opinion about it.
THE Bible, made up of 66 writings, has been described as being “probably the most influential collection of books in human history.”*1 Indeed, it has influenced some of the world’s greatest art, literature, and music. It has had a significant impact on law. It has been extolled for its literary style and has been held in high esteem by many well-educated individuals. Its effect on the lives of people in all strata of society has been particularly profound. It has inspired in many of its readers a remarkable degree of loyalty. Some have even risked death just to read it.
At the same time, there is skepticism about the Bible. There are people who have definite opinions about it although they have personally never read it. They may acknowledge its literary or historical value, but they wonder: How could a book written thousands of years ago possibly be relevant in this modern world? We live in the “information age.” Up-to-the-minute information on current events and technology is at our fingertips. “Expert” advice on virtually all the challenges of modern life is readily available. Can the Bible really contain information that is practical today?
This brochure endeavors to answer such questions. It is not designed to impose religious views or beliefs on you, but it is intended to show that this historically influential book, the Bible, is worthy of your consideration. A report published in 1994 noted that some educators strongly feel that the Bible is so firmly embedded in Western culture that “anyone, believer or unbeliever, who is not familiar with Biblical teachings and accounts will be culturally illiterate.”*2
Perhaps, after reading what is published herein, you will agree that—whether a person is religious or not—the Bible is, at the very least, a book to be read.
Its an interesting read. :thumb:
- A Book That Is Misrepresented
- The World's Most Widely Distributed Book
- How Did the Book Survive?
- A Book that "Speaks" Living Languages
- What the Book Contains
- Can This Book Be Trusted?
- Does this Book Agree With Science?
- A Practical Book for Modern Living
- A Book of Prophecy
- A Book for You?
- References Listed By Section
- What Other Book
Btw, those numbers with * refers to the reference it was taken from:
1 - The New Encyclopædia Britannica, Micropædia, 1987, Vol. 2, p. 194.
2 - Emerging Trends, November 1994, p. 4.
EDIT: I can send you a copy if any of you is interested in reading that brochure.
yes, it does say its the word of God.
Question: What was the first language use to write the bible? Aramaic ?, Latin ? Greek? am sure it was not english like in the King James version which is widely use today. And somewhere along those time, can we honestly believe that there were no mistake done on the translation? whose to say that those verses were the real one, we have not seen the real version yet or can even understand it.
In fact one of the greatest inconsistencies of all time is the birthday of Jesus. and so on and so forth :D
I'm just curious, who actually wrote the bible? I mean is it the people around Jesus during his life or is it after his crusification? and your quote from the bible mention that the message in bible is not from man own thinking, but passed to them by the Holy Spirit? So is the Holy Spirit is Gabriel? and is it passed to the people directly?Quote:
Originally Posted by cherish
I'm asking this cause in Islam, we believe that The Prophet Muhammad himself received the message from Holy Spirit(Gabriel), then passed verbally to those around him who then wrote it in the book. Same way how we believed the Bible was given to prophet Jesus although it might contradict with Christian belief.. ;)
@Ideru & Max: Really very interesting questions you guys raised. But, I believe I won't be able to answer them all right now. :D (I am at work with a deadline to beat after all. ;)) Why don't I just send you guys a copy of that brochure? I believe the answers are there. I'll give it to you two as a gift. :)
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine...andt/nicea.htm
- this is I think a very interesting article :D
another one
http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/nicaea.html
Okay, to answer that.. here's another section from that brochure:Quote:
Originally Posted by ideru
Reference:Quote:
What the Book Contains
A person entering a library for the first time may find the array of books bewildering. But with a little explanation of how the books are arranged, he soon learns how to locate things. Similarly, finding your way around in the Bible is easier when you understand how its contents are arranged.
THE word “Bible” is derived from the Greek word bi‧bli′a, which meant “papyrus rolls” or “books.”*1 The Bible is actually a collection—a library—of 66 individual books, the writing of which spanned some 1,600 years, from 1513 B.C.E. to about 98 C.E.
The first 39 books, about three quarters of the Bible’s contents, are known as the Hebrew Scriptures, since they were written mostly in that language. These books may generally be divided into three groups: (1) Historical, Genesis to Esther, 17 books; (2) Poetic, Job to The Song of Solomon, 5 books; and (3) Prophetic, Isaiah to Malachi, 17 books. The Hebrew Scriptures cover the early history of the earth and of mankind as well as the history of the ancient nation of Israel from its inception down to the fifth century B.C.E.
The remaining 27 books are known as the Christian Greek Scriptures, for they were written in Greek, the international language of the day. They are basically arranged according to subject matter: (1) the 5 historical books—the Gospels and Acts, (2) the 21 letters, and (3) the Revelation. The Christian Greek Scriptures focus on the teachings and activities of Jesus Christ and his disciples in the first century C.E.
1- Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, edited by Gerhard Kittel, 1983, Vol. I, p. 617.
About Jesus' birth.... its not December 25. :D Details later. ;)
I believe this question is in part answered by the Section of that brochure I just quoted here. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Payne
About the Holy Spirit... in short, its God's active force or power. Gabriel is an angel, not an active force. :) Details, also later... ;)
Just PM me if you guys are interested in getting a copy of that brochure. I'll pay for the postage, don't worry. ;) :wave:
ahh its ok, you can answer me anytime, I can search the net for this, but I believe its a lot safer to ask a christian personally than being misguided by articles read in the net.. ;) or maybe you can show me a good/thrustworthy site that I can refer regarding christians belief..?Quote:
@Ideru & Max: Really very interesting questions you guys raised. But, I believe I won't be able to answer them all right now. :D (I am at work with a deadline to beat after all. ;)) Why don't I just send you guys a copy of that brochure? I believe the answers are there. I'll give it to you two as a gift.
Yes, it is a lot safer to ask a christian personally than be misguided by articles found/read in the net. :thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Payne