Re: Has CG gone to the crapper?
Well, I wouldn't mind free T-Shirts etc.. :D but that is not a need that I have to post somewhere my thoughts.. wrong or right.
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Originally Posted by Padex
No, it's not that. It's the same question(s) over and over again, receiving the same answer(s) over and over again for the sake of a few green dots.
Well, every year some new people start with the same problems. It will happen.
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Originally Posted by Padex
Also in the rush for higher rep you'll see multiple identical answers for the same post. While some duplicates are natural ( same post time) the ones posted 30 mins later are not.
I don't think people posting duplicates are able to do so for many times. Either they go away or are questions. I have questioned a few about "value" their post makes. Also, it can be considered an indirect question meaning their reply is faulty which other might correct out. It is what makes a discussion a discussion.
I think what most people want is a niche for themselves. A forum where only guru questions come up and replied to. Either we can have a newbie forum or a Guru forum here.. a good suggestion that I don't know if has been brought earlier.
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I think it's only a personal matter with few members who did't like the changes on codeguru.
Exactly! My thought! Ego-clashes may be! :)
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Originally Posted by Alin
i wish it was that, but unfortunatelly is not. take a look around. you'll see.
There are a few forums here very active.. some not.. that can always happen and considering some forums got started late by which time there are other sources where those tech forums might have got famous.
I think there are certain people who got more close to some of their time members and were not open to letting new folks come in or so.. more of like a closed group. May be I am wrong.. may be I am not able to express it well.. but I seriously do think this is one of things that has got itself highlighted from the posts so far.
The various concerns that I feel that came out here are:
1. Low standard of posts due to reputation system
2. Low standard of posts due to a lot of beginner questions
3. Repeated posting of same answer by multiple members
4. Old folks for some reason missing to come here and post
5. Great discussions not happening here anymore because of the experts left. Did I miss anything?
For those:
1: I don't agree. I have posted my reasons already.
2. That will happen. Point is how much of non-newbie questions get put up. Suggestion of having a different newbie forum can help but I don't know of its implementability.
3. Can always be checked therein!
4. Will always happen - for many reasons what-so-ever
5. This is the funniest because I don't know how can Gurus bring up this concern. They in a way are making fun of themselves and the rest of the Gurus sticking around here. Also, it depends on other points above.
Well, these are just my opinion. I may be wrong... you can do a shift-delete to your memory chunks holding any relevance to this post. Regarding criticisms or pointing out if my perception is wrong - you can surely fight back! :)
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Originally Posted by Xeon
[Seriously, can you even understand what that old fogey is saying half the time? He talks in rocket-science + hieroglyphics riddles + arcane Machine Language + Who-Knows-What-Language-and-speech all the time!
All graveyards are full of non-replaceable people.
Re: Has CG gone to the crapper?
I personally find CP has advantages and disadvantages. I find CG to be able to correct its shortcomings as a community, where CP may not.
One difference between CG and CP is that CG has a more open forum of communications.
On CG you can just post, without having a project. Ergo we can talk about
this . For example it could be said that from what I have read of this, different types of reputation could be added to show different strongpoints.
I don't think there is anything wrong with bringing that up, but the verbose of the original post was aggressive in nature. I don't think we even need to change that.
FWIW,
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Which I find to be a much more constructive discussion that this one.
Although it does point at areas of improvement that we cannot make.
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I am frankly outraged. The response I have seen here to Mick by a bunch of hacks is disgusting. Mick is one of the most competant prgorammers macking an appearance here on code guru. [ ... ] As soon as Mick left and Galthaea , this sight lost all interest for me.
Back to the twelve pack for me.
Yves: Ok, let's calm down on personal attacks please
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Yves: Please no personal attacks
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Mick is one of the most competant prgorammers macking an appearance here on code guru.
I think Mick is saying that he misses CG, please make these changes, so he can rejoin. Look he posted here right?
Sorry CP is just not as free and easy spirited as CG.
Nobody is questioning Micks programming ability.
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Moderator notice: personal attacks, especially if accompanied by foul language violate the AUP.
Please stay courtuous, whatever your opinion is.
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I apologize Yves. As you kow you are one of the people I truly respec. I jus had a hard time listening to mick take this crap.
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Well, fair enough and I get your point, but there are better ways of saying it ;)
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Well, talk to Mick about it, since he left because of the rep system.
Really? Interesting to know, since Mick was in top three of most reputed people when he "retired". ;)
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Personnally I don't think the reputation system is a problem, but I don't think it's helpful either. It doesn't add much value since the green dots don't mean much to me. If a person has a great answer, it's a great answer, no matter how much green there is. Same for bad answers.
Nothing is perfect. Reputation system is one of the "gadgets" forums use to attract people. ;)
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Really? Interesting to know, since Mick was in top three of most reputed people when he "retired". ;)
Marius, that's hardly the point. I have almost 3K rep points and I hate each and every single one of them. But at some point I was enthusiastic about them too ( giving and receiving). IMHO the rep system is the worst thing that happened to CG in the past 3 years.
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Marius, that's hardly the point. I have almost 3K rep points
Pretty good, my friend. ;)
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and I hate each and every single one of them.
Come on, Mother Teresa, hate is a sin. :D
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But at some point I was enthusiastic about them too ( giving and receiving). IMHO the rep system is the worst thing that happened to CG in the past 3 years.
Generally speaking.
Since first homo erectus said "Aha...", 66% of his successors inherit the gene of take_all_advantages_you_can_from_one_system_then_throw_with_dirt_in_it.
Again, just generally speaking.
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Are we heading somewhere with this or is it just a blame game going on?
@ souldog - no one is questioning anyone's capabilities or attributes as an individual... :) Intention isn't that... the problems being discussed don't hold much ground and I don't know if anything can be done about it... The site cannot do without Ads (as I know it) - I say it is time to say compromise on that front.. and just start a new thread in Feedback about whenever they become resource greedy!! :D
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Originally Posted by ovidiucucu
Generally speaking.
Since first homo erectus said "Aha...", 66% of his successors inherit the gene of take_all_advantages_you_can_from_one_system_then_throw_with_dirt_in_it.
Again, just generally speaking.
I wasn't here to start the C++ Aha moments thread when the first homo erectus said Aha! :D SM even did not have his posting back then, I guess.. :D
I wonder how you came to the number 66 :D ;)