Are you a vegetarian.

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Originally Posted by Charu0306

Now, plants dont have life, atleast not physically.

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Huh? Since when? :confused: Please see here for the conventional biological definition of life.

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Originally Posted by Krishnaa

BTW I don't think there is any reason to feel guilty if one eats chicken or meat, it's nature's way to maintain things, animals do eat other animals, they eat humans, why humans should not eat them? It's not like the chicken/pigs are becoming rare species.

The only reason could be health related problems, if there are any(I believe there is none).

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Hmmm .... Bird Flu and Swine Fever...

Bird flu has hit the world hard, expecially on the domesticated level... anyone follow the CNN stories of entire farms of chickens that were infected...

and Swine fever has recently poped its head up in South Africa .. Road blocks are set up around the infected area to check for any pork transports. It's now illegal to transport any type of pork out of the area...

Gremmy.....

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Originally Posted by exterminator

Are we talking about animal rights now? ;) Well, that would be an interesting discussion as well.. :wave:

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Actually, certain modern practices and animal rights issues almost go hand in hand...

For example: Here is a protest against KFC featuring Pamela Anderson...

(Now, I know what makes you click that link... :D )

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Originally Posted by Siddhartha

Actually, certain modern practices and animal rights issues almost go hand in hand...

For example: Here is a protest against KFC featuring Pamela Anderson...

(Now, I know what makes you click that link... :D )

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This was a real Eye opener .. thanks Sid...

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Originally Posted by gstercken

Huh? Since when? :confused: Please see here for the conventional biological definition of life.

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Huh? I said NOT Physically, but biologically YES, they have life. But again, there no killing involved with plants. When have we heard plants screaming to death when they are cooked? :) You are contradicting yourself.

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Originally Posted by Siddhartha

Actually, certain modern practices and animal rights issues almost go hand in hand...

For example: Here is a protest against KFC featuring Pamela Anderson...

(Now, I know what makes you click that link... :D )

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That shook me. I couldnt see it. :( Thats a shame really. Thats too much animal cruelty.

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When have we heard plants screaming to death when they are cooked? You are contradicting yourself.

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There have been studies over the years that do indicate systemic reactions to damage or extreme environments. Who it to put a hard definition on "scream"?

ps: At least animals to have a (miniscule) chance to run away :D

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Originally Posted by Charu0306

When have we heard plants screaming to death when they are cooked?

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Have you ever heard animals screaming to death when they are cooked?
I don't cook animals when they're still alive. :D

Seriously, sellfish have a very primitive nervous system and have no notion of pain... As there are plants with an even more primitive "nervous" system that react to stimulations (like Mimosa Pudica).

Pain is only useful in species clever enough to change their overall behavior when they suffer and doesn't exist in more primitive species.

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Originally Posted by Charu0306

, there no killing involved with plants. When have we heard plants screaming to death when they are cooked? :) You are contradicting yourself.

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Okay, now if plants have life, why do you even rob them if not killing? and who told you that plants are not killed for food, most of the green veg are killed(taken off from ground) completly and sent sold.

Do you think plant were born only to produce food for humans? Don't you think they might have diff. purpose behind producing those seeds, leaves, fruits? Isn't taking those things away from those plants a robbery?

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Originally Posted by Charu0306

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:) You are contradicting yourself.

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So are you. :)

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Originally Posted by SuperKoko

Have you ever heard animals screaming to death when they are cooked?
I don't cook animals when they're still alive. :D

Seriously, sellfish have a very primitive nervous system and have no notion of pain... As there are plants with an even more primitive "nervous" system that react to stimulations (like Mimosa Pudica).

Pain is only useful in species clever enough to change their overall behavior when they suffer and doesn't exist in more primitive species.

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:D :lol: Good One Superkoko... :thumb:

That's right - plants are killed for food.
In fact, we even boil them alive.

I think the biggest difference between consuming plants and consuming animals as far as humans go is that - humans are not plants. Eating animals from certain perspectives comes really close to the boundary of eating another of one's own kind (and hence close to wild animal behaviour).

Even when it comes to consuming animals, what is one culture's bread and butter (for example: dogs eaten in Korea) is absolutely *yuck* to another. There were (still are?) some primitive tribes that are are non-vegetarians to the extent that they are cannibalistic. Then, as far as non-vegetarianism goes, what is so wrong in one culture consuming human flesh if consuming goats and chicken is allowed in another?

Clearly, even ardent non-vegetarians still believe in and impose limits... :D

OTOH, vegetarians don't stray into this area. ;)

In favor of V's against NV's, I have to say that okay robbing vegetables etc is bad but committing a robbery somewhere doesn't give you eligibility to murder.. :D

Humans are the most cruel mammals...

The way I read the article, people with higher IQs become vegetarians. Being a vegitarian wont give you a higher IQ.

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Originally Posted by Siddhartha

Even when it comes to consuming animals, what is one culture's bread and butter (for example: dogs eaten in Korea) is absolutely *yuck* to another. There were (still are?) some primitive tribes that are are non-vegetarians to the extent that they are cannibalistic. Then, as far as non-vegetarianism goes, what is so wrong in one culture consuming human flesh if consuming goats and chicken is allowed in another?

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:D

I recall Silence of the lambs now... OMG! :eek:

Really, vegetarians are "accepted" all over! No "yucks"! :)

Well, I have another point :D

"It is far more efficient for us to eat plants directly than to eat meat, which requires an animal to eat up to 10 times as much vegetable food in order for us to gain the same food value."

Well, another one! :D

"almost any vegetarian food can be taken without necessarily killing a plant. For example, we need not kill to gather ripe fruits and nuts, berries, melons, seeds, legumes, tomatoes, squashes, pumpkins, cucumber, okras, peppers and so many other vegetables. Potatoes are dug from the ground after the plant has died. We can pick a few leafy greens at a time in our own garden, leaving the plant alive and well. Vegetables are generally annuals, harvested at the end of their natural life."