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The markup does work.
You have to use square brackets instead of angled brackets.



As I've pointed out in the addendum to the original post I hope to continue to exert an influence on the quality of the content. Wish me luck in this regard.

Especially in the comments sections there are lots of broken links. Also this is the third time in a month that i have had to get another password, what's up with that?

> You have to use square brackets instead of angled brackets.

Oh... Uh, yeah, yeah... I knew that... :)

(And you would think that I would have remembered that...! :)

The new site still bites! :)

> As I've pointed out in the addendum to the original post I hope
> to continue to exert an influence on the quality of the content.
> Wish me luck in this regard.

The Content of the site is not really the problem, it is the current design, layout and L&F that is the big killer...! -And I know that I am going to have Kafka Dreams tonight about flying animated banners, and words like "EarthWeb" and "Developer.com" swooping down and attacking me...

Peace!

-=- James.

I know some of you may not care about the wavy margin,but I think it's worth looking into. If I didn't know codeguru.com,and I came to a page that looked like the current homepage...I would probably leave. Yes, that may be a stupid decision, but I don't have time to mess with something that isn't of a professional level. Codeguru now looks like a beginner's site.

Even though it's just look and feel, we don't want to alienate new developers that recoil at the homepage. I think that there will be fewer new posts than before, for that simple reason.

Please seriously consider the benefits that this choice has brought and whether they are really worth it.

Thanks,
Birch

Zafir,

I am very disappointed. In your summary of comments, you COMPLETELY ignored the OTHER overriding theme in our comments: Serious concern that the quality of material on the new """code guru""" will remain as before. We have serious concerns because nothing we've seen from developer.com before has had any guts to it from a developer's standpoint. Lots of ads, little substance--at least for real developers. Obviously, there's a market for that. That's their bread and butter and I'm not comdemning them for their mode of business. But is this mode REALLY appropriate for codeguru???? Please address this for us.

The new site is the pits - a triumph of presentation over content. It
has certainly dropped below the threshold of being useful given the
time I have to wait for the endless ads to download.

CodeGuru customisation of my Visa card - give me a break!

Does "Copyright ©1996-1999 EarthWeb Inc.. All rights reserved. Reproduction in whole or in part in any form or medium without express written permission of EarthWeb is prohibited" mean we have to ask EarthWeb to use any code snippets
we find useful ;-)

codeguru was a much better site -- I have always avoided developer.com because the site was slow and the search engine sucked... now I have to avoid codeguru.com as well!

Just a few things:
A codeguru newsletter should go out asking if there is anyone not majorly concerned or who actually likes the new changes.

Why isn't "codeguru" listed in the "Earthweb" sites at the bottom of the fugly aqua wave?

Is it possible for EarthWeb to charge to access/download our FREE code?

Thanks Again,
Birch

This is very disturbing. By any standard, there has been an __AVALANCHE__ of highly negative response to the new codeguru. I can't recall seeing anything like this before! Does anyone there subscribe to the notion that n heads is greater than 1, where n is very large? And as important as all the criticism is this: Where the heck is __ANYONE__ from developer.com in all this trying to quench our fears and address our concerns???? I mean, even some standard marketing double speak is better than nothing. Just something. Anything! It isn't good. Sorta like an airline prepresentative after a crash finally coming out to address the families the following day. An exaggeration yes, but the psychology is the same. Bad omen for things to come. I'm not convinced that developer.com cares. This behaviour just confirms our fears about the future of codeguru. It helps solidify our belief that the concerns we've expressed are going to happen.

I can now see recent additions to the site and the search engine seems to be hooked up. Much better.

The wavy line makes it hard to follow code listings.

Hi Zafir,

I don't care about the wave, either. What I want is speed. I think the bottleneck is this ad which tries to run a Java applet on each page. Get rid of it. I don't like Java without any use. This means, I only like Java applets on a page if I have a benefit from it. Games for instance <g>.

BTW, I tried to rate a post a few hours ago. Didn't work.

Martin

Maybe EarthWeb will fix all the problems we are complaining about.
Maybe this site will be even better than CodeGuru was.

I, for one, would be delighted.

But if the problems persist and the worldwide community of developers wants a
good site to support itself, then stop complaining and do something about it!

I am happy to coordinate any initial action. I can also provide
a server located in the USA.

If you are interested in helping setup and maintain a site for developers,
mail me: [email protected].

If enough of us are interested and each does a bit of the work, we
can do it!

If you're not interested, stop complaining and you'll get what you're
given by EarthWeb or whoever.


Russell Robinson
Software Developer

I am very concerned about the direction of my favorite MFC/Windows programming site. Sold out to a group that couldn't make it on their own site. What's next, paid access? If CG is truly going down the tubes, then I will definitly be looking for another site. If developer.com wants to really keep CG as the most accessed developer site in the world, then put it back and leave it alone.

Don't like the green wave. It obscures the view and adds little.

It should be obvious by now, nobody gives a **** about your "new" look site.
It's like Netscape selling out to Microsoft!