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IMO, yes, that is very wrong, and I don't see it that logical, and I don't understand why it is right. How can you put money above everything and think you won't be able to get married before 50 because of finacial problems? No intention to offend, but this way of thinking is totally wrong. If you will give it a try, you, I am sure, will come to understand that money aren't at all the most important thing in live.Quote:
Originally Posted by mehdi62b
How many people, when lying in their death bed, say "bring me my bank account statement, I want to look at it one last time" or "bring me my wads of cash, I want to say goodbye"?
People usually say things like "bring me my children (or wife or friends), I want to say goodbye"...
Worship money = you lose. he who dies with the most toys is not the winner.
PS: This topic brought out all the pr0n addicts :sick: thought you guys only came out at night when there was a full moon :lol:
For anyone with serious problems with porn: www.settingcaptivesfree.com can help. Good luck :thumb:
From Cilu to Meh:
For once, you're right, Cilu pal! :DQuote:
How can you put money above everything and think you won't be able to get married before 50 because of finacial problems?
Anyway, I've heard of such statements from guys like Meh countless times already. Just because they've problems with their love life, they keep finding all kinds of excuses. Escapism, they call it.
He|| man, I was like this a very very long time ago......like when I was 15 years old. Give him a pretty girl and see what this guy would say.
Probably his reaction is "WOW, thanks man!!!!!" or "With such a girl, I have no need for money!!!!"
Or maybe "So, this is what I've been missing all these years!" and how about "Love is the most powerful thing in the world!" :cool::D
Good day,
Xeon.
getting that pretty girl is not as easy as you are telling,you have to do give manythings and in return it's not clear you get the things you wantedQuote:
Originally Posted by Xeon
I saw just girls try to trick men and obtain their live and money(it's because of financial problems which everyone has)
I didn't get anythng from *love* because she just wants my money,my reputation,not myself,this is important for me
when you have money to pay for her everything is okay but when you don't!!!! :ehh:
not just to me but 85 percent of students really avoid marriage till 40
sometimes money got the most important thing though
every year we have some registrations for marriage assistance at university but no one considers such chilish theaters
these are all the sad facts in my country,
I solved this problem for myself by banning all of such rubbish things but many people have different solutions
sometime I think without a wife or a family I would remain child but there is no choice
when I can have enough money I would decide to get married but if I don't have I don't tend to make a girl disapointed
//PS:I'm a undergratuated student but somtimes I have to think on such problems,I always escaped them but this time I don't know why it's not easy
Well dear, I would say that its not the right way of thinking. Money does matter, but not the most. Honestly, believe me that I understand how you feel, but what I think is that, you were not looking for the right girl(s). By right I mean, you need a surviver girl to marry, not any other girl. And usually surviver girls are not pretty as in the movies :) or in the shopping malls ;) (places like that). But they turn out to be good choice as a wife.Quote:
Originally Posted by mehdi62b
/ Oh and btw, listen to "In The End" by Linkin Park 3 times a day, once before breakfast, once before going to bed and once after lunch. May be this helps a little :p
Is this thread hijacked? :rolleyes:
And you are aware of that and still would want such a girl (I'm not sure at this point I understand what you want). Come one, the world is full of girls, why are you looking for such a girl, who obviously isn't interested in you (or any other person in particular) but for the things you (or other) can provide for her? I would not want to spend a single hour with a girl that "likes" me because I have money.Quote:
Originally Posted by mehdi62b
Not sure if hijacked, but yes, we have deviated from the subject. If it turns out that is needed, the thread can eventually be split in two, so that we can discuss these "love affairs" elsewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ejaz
From Meh:
This is the source of Iran's declining population and babies. :rolleyes:Quote:
not just to me but 85 percent of students really avoid marriage till 40
sometimes money got the most important thing though
Your problem has nothing to do with porn. Your problem is that you lack confidence in yourself and just because of one bad experience in the past or something you always saw/hear doesn't mean that all girls are like this.Quote:
//PS:I'm a undergratuated student but somtimes I have to think on such problems,I always escaped them but this time I don't know why it's not easy
If you're afraid of rejected/cheated/dumped, you'll end up a lonely old man and die as one. You seriously need counselling. Go to http://members.lovingyou.com now. The ladies there will counsel you for free.
Speaking about LovingYou.com, I've a good mind to recruit the chicks there to join us in this forum. What do u think, Brad? The ladies there are all very friendly and the typical American-housewife type(25 years to 45 years).
Most are from the US. A lot are from Canada and some are from Europe. A few are from Pakistan too and there's some Asians as well. Serious, Brad.......I don't mind, but you need to gimme some bucks as reward. Er-hem.
From MrRee:
A very very cute story, Ree pal. And no......I'm proud to say I'm a porn watcher, provider, supplier and ambassador. I'm totally proud.....and I'm loving it!!! :cool:Quote:
legend: mrRee=anti-porn; Xeon=porn supporter(watcher or provider);
From Cilu to Meh:
Yeah right, Meh. Why Iran? U can always go other countries for girls, right? India is good. Pakistan is another.Quote:
Come one, the world is full of girls, why are you looking for such a girl, who obviously isn't interested in you
Don't tell me, in the ******g world, that you can't find a good girl outta the combined population of these two neighbouring countries. And we're talking about more than 800 million ladies here.
If you really fail, come to Singapore. 50% of the girls here like guys with Caucasian-looking features, so u're in! I'll do all I can to help you too, since you're a good old guy. And by the way, our country has lots of pretty girls too. Now, go to LovingYou.com. They'll give you help there.
Good day,
Xeon.
Just curious, how many times have u visited these countries? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Xeon
Okay guys,
I just wanted to say marriage is really going to be something impossible for me
really no serious problem with me
I'm a normal man
I just sent negative pulses here very much it was because of reading lessons and some frustration on them and some severe anxiety because of the near features....
//Motherland is the best place
From Ejaz:
Nah, never been to these countries before. But I do know that India has 2 kinds of girls, the white-Indians and black-Indians, if I'm not wrong. The former is the caucasian-looking type while the latter is almost the same, but their skin is darker. And I do know the Taj Mahal's bricks/marble is slowly corroding due to acid rain every now and then. :)Quote:
Just curious, how many times have u visited these countries?
As for Pakistan, the girls are much like the Indian girls too, and in rural areas, they put lots of vases and pots on their heads while they walk!:thumb:
On the other hand, Pakistan is a country which is improving technologically day by day. Compared to other Middle East countries, it's one of the richest and most peaceful, and most girls there, especially the young ones, walk around in jeans and that kinda western stuff.:thumb:
Good day,
Xeon. :cool:
How old are you Xeon?
From Deniz:
21 year old, kid. U got a problem with that?:thumbd:Quote:
How old are you Xeon?
Good day,
Xeon.
Yeah, I got a problem with being called a kid by a 21 year old when I'm 30. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Xeon
this thread was splitted :)
when you don't get married you always think you are not something normal
really I'm not interesetd in marriage and wife and familly and childrens
I'm not a stone man..just I'm not intereseted in such things
but everytime when people speak they tell,NO,NO,every one should get married finally,everyone should have a wife,everyone should have a family
I didn't(couldn't) accept them
I'm really not interested to have a family
am I a human?????
I always thought I'm not a human I always have a bad feeling on myself
I really want to be single and independent from everyone,free..I know a wife could increase my problems extremly
does this show I'm made of sones and I'm not a human????
at university,at other places I really don't like to have conversations with girls,because I think I should be independent from them,I behave with them very proudly,everygirl tries to make a bit near,I reject her very disappointedly,because I think it would be another problem for me
I hadn't a close girlfriend yet,and really don't want it
but,I always think there is something wrong with me,and I'm like a stone
I realy dislike a family,a wife,childerens,it's againt our culture
well,you can't impose me being single is something strange but everyone triies that...
what will happen to me if I don't get married,what serious problems and dangers would happen to me,should I leave the society and go to the forests
can somone tell me its not something strange,and many people have such experiments,you can remain like a human without a wife
this has gotten a serious problem for me,I always think I'm not a human because I don't like a family...
well,I'm a human like others without a wife just a bit different...
Well, I don't think there's something wrong in choosing to be single for the rest of your life. If you don't want to, then don't. It is your life, not theirs. Choosing to be single doesn't mean you're not human.
I get a similar reaction from other people when they find out that I'm still single at my age. LOL. I understand they have good intentions in telling me I should have that one person in my life. But what can I do if I just haven't met the right one? It doesn't mean I don't want to be in a relationship. But I don't mind staying single if I don't find the right person for me either. Now is that strange? I dont think so. :)
I think, there's really nothing wrong if you don't want to have a wife, and/or family of your own. But what is not good is isolating yourself... like not having friends. Having friends from both genders is a good, healthy thing. :)
//But wait.. are you saying you're not attracted to women? I asked this because you said something about... avoiding them. Wow. Are you attracted to guys then? :confused: No need to answer if you don't want to. Peace! :D
no,I'm attracted to girls...I'm not a gay,I avoid them because my beleif tells me thatQuote:
Originally Posted by che_rish
I earase the problem completely,I want to give up because I'm sure there is no one except these rubbish girls I see every day,well,I sometimes have some fear from them,they are not really like girls,they are like girls in porn sites,but there are few other pretty girls(student) they are very good cases but they have financial problems,and I have finacial problem and she has financial problem so we can't start a life till we have financial problems,I know pretty girls at college but I don't have enough money, so it would be something useless to make friend with them again,because there would be no marriage,I won't have the nesseccary money(including a modern car,a good job,a house) for a marriage...so the problem is deleted from its base by banning every sex,love,...Quote:
But what can I do if I just haven't met the right one?
well,no,like many people,but you don't think there would be something wrong with you if you can't find your case till to end of the life,maybe I'm a bit emotional...Quote:
But I don't mind staying single if I don't find the right person for me either. Now is that strange?
I'm a emotinal guy,I have some friends
- my emotion says go and get married
- my brain says me no you should delay it for long years
but I should select what is my brain is telling
I think it's abit soon I'm thinking on such things?Okay?I should be gratudated then I would have a free time to think completely on marriage problem?
I don't know why this marraige problem is not something solvable for me,I've solved many problems but why this one is so hard for me,I don't know why it's really has gotten hard for me...I just want to make it easier for myself
From Deniz:
I love you, Deniz. Those guys like Cilu and other Mr. Serious types should learn to be like you. By the way, when Aussies say "G Day, mate!".......how do you pronouce it? Is it "Gee-day, mate!" or is it pronouced as "Good day, mate!"?Quote:
Yeah, I got a problem with being called a kid by a 21 year old when I'm 30.
From Meh:
That's just the norm, but it's ok to be different. It's basically the same in every country.Quote:
but everytime when people speak they tell,NO,NO,every one should get married finally,everyone should have a wife,everyone should have a family
When everyone's tall and you're short, you're considered weird. But it's ok. I'm another case. :cool:
No no.....it's not a problem not to get married. Do not live in others' shadows. Live life for itself. You should be happy to know this guy called Xeon. All the little girls he has came across so far just don't fit in with his perfectionist requirements, so in a way, he's a similar case like you.Quote:
what will happen to me if I don't get married,what serious problems and dangers would happen to me,should I leave the society and go to the forests
How similar? Well, both of us ain't gonna get married until we found a perfect girl.
For you fools out there, in case you dunno, I'm a hardcore perfectionist when it comes to girls. My ideal girl gotta be at least 8/10 in terms of looks and figure, musn't force me to convert to a religion, musn't be too wild and musn't smoke or drink alcohol, must be perky and fun, must have a unique and indifferent attitude and the kind that don't follow the crowd.
She must be stable too, must be clean and tidy, must not be naggy and not too spendthrift. She must like nature and must be kind too, but must be awesome in flirting and sex.
What culture? Osama's culture? I don't believe the Iranian government is discouraging Iranian men from having a family with wife and kids.Quote:
I realy dislike a family,a wife,childerens,it's againt our culture
If you think your culture is bad, abandon it. Like I said, you are you, UNDERSTAND???!!!! Your culture is not your god, and I'm sure, if you're a Muslim......I'm sure that Allah wouldn't want you to think like this too.
From what I know, in Islam, they encourage you to have family and kids and wife, and be nice to them. Ain't it so, old pal? :cool:
If the Iranian government is stopping you Iranian men from having a wife and kids, tell me and I'll convey the message to George War Bush.
He'll know what to do when he returns from his vacation.:cool:
U think u're alone? There's a lot of famous programmers who didn't even have a wife though they're approaching their 60s. What's wrong? Nothing!Quote:
well,I'm a human like others without a wife just a bit different
And if you think you're different and wanna live as a hermit, do tell me.
I'll go live as a hermit together with you when I'm older.
I know there's a range of moutains up there between Europe and the Middle East where time actually stops. The people there look no different from Europeans, but their clothes and culture are tribal. Forgot the name of that valley, though. It was onced featured in Reader's Digest.
What belief? I don't believe that your "belief" in this case refers to Islam, your religion. Is it? Don't use that as an excuse.Quote:
I avoid them because my beleif tells me that
If you're telling me Islam is asking you to think in this way, you really gotta look at what kinda Islam you're under. Extremism? Is it?
In Singapore, the folks here all practice real and true Islam. They hang out with friends of all races and genders, flirts, have families and settle down.
What's wrong? I think it's not religion.......it's the way you're brought up by your village. Your village chief probably believes in stuff like stoning a 17-year old girl to death just because she flirts with a man. :rolleyes:
That's tribal culture and extremism. It's not part of this world. Look at the world, look at us. Do not live in that abyss.
Even if you have a Ph.D, a Doctorate, a Masters, Honours or whatever certifications, you ain't gonna solve this problem. This problem doesn't require the mindset of a rocket scientist or the timespan of 1000 decades.Quote:
I think it's abit soon I'm thinking on such things?Okay?I should be gratudated then I would have a free time to think completely on marriage problem?
Just tell yourself that......
You are you. You live for yourself and no one else. If you know your culture is wrong, change the way you live in it. No buts.
There are two kinds of humans in this world : Winners and Losers.
Winners go against their destinies and Losers submit to it.
The Game of Life is that simple.
From Cherish:
Why don't you and Meh try being together? I think the two of you suit each other perfectly. I'll definetly spur you two on, Cherish.Quote:
I get a similar reaction from other people when they find out that I'm still single at my age. LOL. I understand they have good intentions in telling me I should have that one person in my life. But what can I do if I just haven't met the right one?
At least you know Meh isn't those wild, crazy and flirty club-hopping guys with 2 chicks in his arms every night, ye' know? Once this guy overcomes his lack of confidence and confusion, he'll become the most loyal and faithful guy ever. :thumb:
Daddy vouches for him.
I can become a success coach already,
Xeon.
mehdi, where did you get his idea that if you don't want to get married your humanity is put under question? There are many people that decide to stay single for the rest of their lives and never be involved in a relashionship (take for instance monks, nuns and catholic priests).
However, my personal opinion (and I don't want to offend anyone) is that this is plain wrong. Not hasting to get married just for the sake of getting married and waiting for the right kind of person is a probably a wise thing to do. Cherish put it so well:
Things likeQuote:
Originally Posted by cherish
are just wrong. Why are you trying to convince yourself of such idea? I believe you're heading on the wrong direction. You may not have found so far a good girl for you, but you never know what the future holds. One of my favorite mottos is "all the good things happen to those who wait". So don't despair, but don't give up either.Quote:
Originally Posted by mehdi
All this discussion reminds me of what someone said (don't recall if it was Deniz or Mick):
:DQuote:
A bunch of software developers giving relationship advices, priceless.
Mehdi, You won't even see it coming.
Love/Marriage whatever comes when you least expect it, some it takes longer than others. But don't keep your eyes closed otherwise you won't see it coming :D
Like Bon Jovi Says:
Keep The Faith
BTH, mehdi, isn't your name (username) meaning "The Chosen One"? So, why don't you have faith there is a "chosen one"-she for you too?
Mehdi, why do u show your money and status or whatever you say it is to girls before getting into a relationship. Why dont you approach them with something that you actually are ... ur inner self. and then see how they react or whatever...
I guess that there is a flaw in your approach towards relationships that has made you so rigid about your negative attitude towards the topic. And you will have to fix this bug...
Can you give an instance of how you approached a girl and got into a relationship and then ended up frustrated, as you say? That would help you hunt down the things that you might have done wrong. Its impossible that all of them look out for such stuff in boys/men. I mean they for sure look for security with the guy the want to start a new life ahead with but that's not the only concern !!
I wish your belief is lost soon..and you end up with a nice-pretty-understanding-up-to-your-expectations kinda girl...All the best...and Cheers man...dont be so negative... :thumb:
Guys,Thanks for your advices
well,I know many things made me have such negative thoughts
maybe a wrong and imposed education,
I know I should change them and your words made me better,because I don't speak to anyone in the real world on such things :owell,I'm a muslim in that level I just accept god,Quote:
Originally Posted by Xeon
of cource not those muslims you know,
I don't say pray at all or many other things
of cource I have some belief on not doing some harmfull things which is near to islam ,it's not because of my relegion but because of the things I've got to them
meanwhile I accept secularism(and well,really I don't know finally what is my culture!!!!)they don't discourage but because of finacial problems most of youth escape from the marriageQuote:
Originally Posted by Xeon
oh yes,you are rightQuote:
Originally Posted by Xeon
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Xeon
because I have seen many of themQuote:
Originally Posted by cilu
oh,yes you are right :oQuote:
Originally Posted by cilu
yes,because,no one told me what is the meaning of such things,I always thought on such things very badly and rejected them,and refer myself to other more important thingsQuote:
Originally Posted by HanneSThEGreaT
mehdi means someone is on a directed and right path :oQuote:
Originally Posted by cilu
well,I didn't have any good feeling on them,my inner was full of bad feelingQuote:
Originally Posted by exterminator
yes surelly,I should edit my negative thoughts and make them more reasonable,all such thoughts made me not to have a good comunication with them...I should change themQuote:
Originally Posted by exterminator
thanks pals from your words,it would help me think on such problems better:o
From Meh:
It's good that there's the Web and you're connected to the world. Or else, things would have gotten worse. :)Quote:
I know I should change them and your words made me better,because I don't speak to anyone in the real world on such things
From Meh to Cilu:
Indeed, Meh. Cilu must have been watching too much of The Matrix, The Matrix Revolution, the Matrix Reloaded and the Matrix Animated Series, where Neo(the hero) is also called "The One"/"The Chosen One".Quote:
mehdi means someone is on a directed and right path
Wasn't there a movie a year ago also called "The One" starring Jet Li where he fights against himself? :rolleyes:
Nah, that's crap. Most countries in Eastern Europe have tons of very poor people too. But some of them are programmers and they actually travel abroad to work. Imagine you land a job in the US. Assume your salary is US$2000 per month. It is definetly higher, but think : just US$2000 converted to Iranian currency........YOU COULD BUY A BIG MANSION IN IRAN ALREADY, PAL!!!!!! U'RE RICH!!!! :eek:Quote:
they don't discourage but because of finacial problems most of youth escape from the marriage
(ok, maybe not so extreme, but it's going to make you very rich within 2 years time.......... > US$2000 * 24 months, then convert to Iranian currency :eek:)
As long as you've good programming skills(unlike me), you can surf the web and look for foreign companies who're hiring. How about the UK or somewhere nearer.....like Spain etc.?
Because your main selling point is that you can do the same/better job at a lower salary and the employers want that. After they hired you, they will apply a working visa for you and you can start counting how many ships of porn DVD you can acquire.
Anyway, all the best to you. If you've any problems, just ask around here.
Just be careful of one thing, though :
Do not work hard and get rich for the sake of attracting girls.
You will only be attracting whores, vampire bats and leeches this way.
You'll never be happy, because you know that deep down inside, these suckers will leave you once you lose your wealth. And because of that, you'll always fear losing your wealth and losing everything.
As the Buddha once said, "The more you've, the more you're afraid".
(for me, I rather be single forever than to have such suckers clinging onto me)
Good day,
Xeon.
I was left under this impression, that MEHDI == MESSIAH, since I start reading the Dune series, about 10 years ago. And since messiah means "the chosen one" I though mehdi also means that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xeon
Mehdi...I don't want to give you any advice(you'd got tones of them even from Xeon :eek: )...
just a true story...2 of my ex-office mate married to his mother's choice and they live happily together...many of my married friends now unhappy with their marriage with their lovers...maybe "love comes after marriage" was true... :rolleyes:
//still single :D ..it's easy to move around ... :)
Love comes after marriage is real. Even in case of love marriages, people fall in love again. And in cases when they don't, their marriage fails.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrRee
Earlier a person loves a person who spends 2-3 hrs (max) with him daily. After marriage he has to fall in love with a person who is with him 12-14 hrs (or more) daily.
I think who succeed in falling in love again carry their married lives successfully. :thumb:
yes,I should think on such chances(oh not here)of cource Iran is a bit banned among other countries,many iranian students had done such things,when they see there is no good facility for them they prefer to migrate to other countries,of cource I should first look for real jobs here if not found definitly would escape otherwise I should look for my loves at parks and play the guitar for themQuote:
Originally Posted by Xeon
yes cilu,you are right mehdi is also the name of a great person which muslims believe he would finish all the disasters and he would come a day with messiah..mehdi and messiah are brothers for making a peacfull world and such things(I don't know it exactly just I remebered few things I memorized for my exams)Quote:
Originally Posted by cilu
oh,mothers are rightQuote:
Originally Posted by mrRee
mehdi, is that a picture of you? If so, consider posting it in the CG members photo album thread?
That's not a problem. The problem is like yesterday, when a 5 or 6 year old child called me "old man".Quote:
Originally Posted by Deniz
but why the 20 years old lady call me handsome man...I wonder :rolleyes: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Doctor Luz
//how can "love after marriage" can be tested?...should we test to marry a woman...what if the test failed...
From Dr. Luz:
That's not a problem. Being called an old man is better than being called a kid.Quote:
That's not a problem. The problem is like yesterday, when a 5 or 6 year old child called me "old man".
Since the dawn of time until now, from my 8-years old to 16-years old to 21 years old now, people keep calling me kid.
For example, whenever I sit down at a eating houses and the drinks vendors see me, they will ask "Hey kid, you want a drink"?
(my reply to that question is always NO. if they call me "Mister", i will gladly buy from them)
A few weeks ago, some middle-aged lady said to me "Hey kid, can you help me to look after my belongings?"
Well, those were the sharpest insults that really made me boil with rage.
It's worse than being raped. It's totally humiliating, it's forced onto you, it's degaratory, it's barbaric, it's mass destruction, it's insulting and it's totally unforgivable and sinful.
I've a good mind to smash a chair onto their skulls if they address me as kid again. I can't bear this anymore.
Now, if they address me as Beggar, Mr. Paedophile, The one who rapes, Little Bustard, Great Pimp etc......at least those are cool. But not "kid". :thumbd::mad:(especially since I'm 21 years already!!!!........when are they gonna stop calling me kid? when i'm 50 years old???!!!!)
From MrRee:
Actually, a long time ago in Singapore(during my parents' generation), match-made marriages were common.Quote:
//how can "love after marriage" can be tested?...should we test to marry a woman...what if the test failed
Even a god of girls like me doesn't understand how it works, but it does.
The current generation of 42(and up) years old couples in Singapore are all matched-make couples. That includes my friends' parents, my parents, my uncles, my grandparents......everyone.
They never divorce or had any relationship problem.
My dad and my quarreled(small tiff) only 2 times throughout their entire marriage and we're all a happy family.
Compared to now, where couples can choose their own love, there's actually more breaking-ups????? How ironic! :eek:
Maybe the governments should encourage match-making instead.
On the other hand, Meh's picture of that guy with a guitar and those 2 Iranian girls reminded me of one thing.
My pals........don't you all think that Middle East girls are really hot???
I mean, if they dress in Western outfits, wouldn't that be so cute and pretty? Their facial features are already so awesome, like a combination of Indians and Caucasians. It's a pity they're being made to dress like this, though. I'm going to support George War Bush's coalition efforts in the Middle East from now on. It's for the sake and good of the girls there. :wave:
Good day,
Xeon.