Recent CS Grad: Is it better to find a steady career or contract work?
In a few weeks, I will have finished my last two classes for the Summer semester and will have graduated. I am currently working part time doing Technical Support, but need to find some work that is more related to my field.
Short Version: I'm young and still want to travel a lot, so, at the moment, I'm leaning more towards contract work, as that will give me the freedom to travel more. Plus I have few responsibilities and no wife/kids tying me down, so the lack of security isn't that big of a deal. I'm just wondering if it looks bad on my resume to only have contract work, as it will show that I have switched jobs every 3, 6, or 12 months.
Long version: I'm 24 (25 in November), and really want to get some traveling done in the next 3-4 years before I start reaching the stage where I may want to settle down. Because of that, I think that maybe doing Contract work might better suite my lifestyle (at least for the next 3-4 years) as it will allow me to take a month or so off. I'm planning on attending the next World Cup (if I can) and trying to take a long trip to both Europe and somewhere in Asia. These are all fairly big vacations and I don't think I can do them as well, if I were to get a Full-time job. My only concern is I don't want to look unrealiable and uncommitted when I finally do decide to get a full time job, as my Resume will most likely be full of short term job experience.
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I am kind of in the same situation, except that I graduated two months ago. My impression is that one can put own "freelance developer" as the job, so it is not a matter of having "switched jobs every 3, 6, or 12 months", but of having worked on different freelance projects "every 3, 6, or 12 months".
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Yea.. I was thinking of putting them down as contract or freelance job, just wondering if that still looks unfavorable to someone looking to hire a full time employee.
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Working full time seems always better,
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I hear that freelancers are experts of particular areas, but those contracts almost exists only in markets where free jobs are always available
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Meandering around and not really committing to a full time job will be seen as a negative by many companies. It could be seen as a lack of dedication. But then again, if you are confident in your skills and can do contract work regularly, then there is nothing wrong with being self employed. It just requires a bit more work on your part to keep money coming in....
If you get a job where you can work remotely, then you could potentially work from the various locations you want to travel to. The big issue will be getting an employer to believe you would actually work while traveling. A lot of companies are more willing to higher remote/telecommuting coders, so this might be an even better route to go.
As someone else stated - full time work is often better. The value of benefits and self employment tax (in US) are just some of the things that help make it a better option.
Brad!
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Brad Jones
Meandering around and not really committing to a full time job will be seen as a negative by many companies. It could be seen as a lack of dedication. .........
Brad!
:) Regardless of culture, standards of morality, living, social welfare, security etc do exist, sometimes they are invisible heartbroken barriers, inessential judgments. Full time jobs help the young grow better, no parents would like to see their newly graduated children running around for a contract. In poor areas, contracts are for jobless people, which is not a correct evaluation to me. Even though one might find his income too little in a full-time position, but remember that unknown little things may bring him better joys and ease at times.
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TheComputer
but remember that unknown little things may bring him better joys and ease at times.
The question centered on whether there would be a negative impact:
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I'm just wondering if it looks bad on my resume to only have contract work, as it will show that I have switched jobs every 3, 6, or 12 months.
To this, my answer was - most likely.
As to enjoyment of life -- I don't disagree - travel when/while you can. Just know that it might make things harder later. The value of the travel and freedom now could outweigh any possible negative impacts later. It is for each person to way the impact of their actions. I think it is great that dpatel304 is evaluating the impact. That shows a level of wisdom that many people don't have.
Brad!
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Thank you for all the great responses. I'm still torn as to which route to take, but still found the input to be very helpful.
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Brad Jones
As to enjoyment of life -- I don't disagree - travel when/while you can. Just know that it might make things harder later. The value of the travel and freedom now could outweigh any possible negative impacts later. It is for each person to way the impact of their actions. I think it is great that dpatel304 is evaluating the impact. That shows a level of wisdom that many people don't have.
Well put. I guess it explains why I'm still unsure of which route to take, as no one can really tell me which route is better. I guess I have to decide how important stability and freedom are going to be for me for the next four or five years. I'm kinda leaning towards a steady career now that I have thought about it. Although I may not have as much free time, I surely could manage to find enough time to travel where I want to.
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I can't define my understanding that you travel then...work. This is trivial that you must work, travel for what ?
Why does it last without clear statement from.the.start of your travel purpose ?
You already graduated, not a kid of 12
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dpatel304
Thank you for all the great responses. I'm still torn as to which route to take, but still found the input to be very helpful.
Well put. I guess it explains why I'm still unsure of which route to take, as no one can really tell me which route is better. I guess I have to decide how important stability and freedom are going to be for me for the next four or five years. I'm kinda leaning towards a steady career now that I have thought about it. Although I may not have as much free time, I surely could manage to find enough time to travel where I want to.
Are you planning a marriage too ? girls searching men prefer them to have skills and jobs, if you marry someone, your income will be doubled, then you can travel as you wish ???
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TheComputer
Are you planning a marriage too ? girls searching men prefer them to have skills and jobs, if you marry someone, your income will be doubled, then you can travel as you wish ???
In most Asian countries, parents have binoculars, so they look up men for their kids. you know what i mean ?
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As you are a beginner, you should do a full time job and train yourself well, doing contracts is for people who specialize in the type of work and that's how they can keep getting good money out the contracts even after not working full time. Your goal in the beginning should be to learn more and more than anything else, why ? cause the learning doesn't much happen in later phase of life, there you keep on applying your knowledge/experience, also the just out of school guys can do wonders in fast learning.
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dpatel304
In a few weeks, I will have finished my last two classes for the Summer semester and will have graduated. I am currently working part time doing Technical Support, but need to find some work that is more related to my field.
Short Version: I'm young and still want to travel a lot, so, at the moment, I'm leaning more towards contract work, as that will give me the freedom to travel more. Plus I have few responsibilities and no wife/kids tying me down, so the lack of security isn't that big of a deal. I'm just wondering if it looks bad on my resume to only have contract work, as it will show that I have switched jobs every 3, 6, or 12 months.
Long version: I'm 24 (25 in November), and really want to get some traveling done in the next 3-4 years before I start reaching the stage where I may want to settle down. Because of that, I think that maybe doing Contract work might better suite my lifestyle (at least for the next 3-4 years) as it will allow me to take a month or so off. I'm planning on attending the next World Cup (if I can) and trying to take a long trip to both Europe and somewhere in Asia. These are all fairly big vacations and I don't think I can do them as well, if I were to get a Full-time job. My only concern is I don't want to look unrealiable and uncommitted when I finally do decide to get a full time job, as my Resume will most likely be full of short term job experience.
Instead of treveling, you don't want to continue PhD, then expand into post PhD. Many people I guess I know have several PhDs at the same time.
From master, expanding yourself into further studies is a cool thing, I don't know if that's what you might wish! (Hopefully I amnot/wasn't making up extra bullsh*ts)
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Brad Jones
Meandering around and not really committing to a full time job will be seen as a negative by many companies. It could be seen as a lack of dedication. But then again, if you are confident in your skills and can do contract work regularly, then there is nothing wrong with being self employed. It just requires a bit more work on your part to keep money coming in....
Brad!
Dedication? Admittedly this is my first time to hear of how American companies evaluate employees. I am surprised as it seems contradictory to what is in my mind.
I always think an interviewee right in front of me might need to show that he knows how to do the job not that he thinks he can do it within a given timing framework. I never think the American people are more punctual than the Japanese. It seems to break the freedom of time usage. Does US society still preserve social and moral values in businesses ? On a competitive level, are US companies going to employ such theoretical performance to complete their business transactions instead ?
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Khiem
Dedication? Admittedly this is my first time to hear of how American companies evaluate employees. I am surprised as it seems contradictory to what is in my mind.
I'm making generalities, but yes, I think it is safe that most companies expect to see a level of dedication and stability. They want to know you are going to be working towards getting things done that need to be done. It is my opinion that there will almost always be lingering doubts that this is the case if you are a full time employee and not "in the office". Of course, I'm a telecommuter, so this might be a tainted perception.
Should employees expect the same dedication from a company? Nope.
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Khiem
I always think an interviewee right in front of me might need to show that he knows how to do the job not that he thinks he can do it within a given timing framework.
I think that knowing that a person can do a job is the highest priority for most companies. Knowing that can do it in a reasonble time frame would also be important. Having said that, I thnk there are a lot of intangibles that get considered even if they shouldn't be. One is how reliable the person is. Being able to do something, and actually taking the time to do it are two different things. I know a guy that is fantastic and can do virtually anything. The problem is, he is easily distracted doing other things. You could hire him and he could show you that he could do it. The issue is that distractions would likely prevent him from ever actually completing anything....
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Khiem
I never think the American people are more punctual than the Japanese. It seems to break the freedom of time usage.
Some are. Some are not more punctual. Most have to work a given set of hours, although more and more flexibility is being allowed as time goes on. Different companies are different.
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Khiem
Does US society still preserve social and moral values in businesses ? On a competitive level, are US companies going to employ such theoretical performance to complete their business transactions instead ?
I'm not sure I completely follow these questions. If I do, the answers require too much time to answer than I can provide right now. I have to go travel and play.....;) :)
Brad!
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