What C++ compiler do you use and which you think is the best?

What C++ compiler do you use and which you think is the best?

This section is for visual C++, so there is a big change that almost all of users here use the visual C++ compiler.

Actually this is the "C++ (Non Visual C++ Issues)" section. ;)

Having said that, I still use Visual C++ 2005 Express.

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Originally Posted by Zaccheus

Actually this is the "C++ (Non Visual C++ Issues)" section. ;)

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The thread was moved.

I usually just stick to GCC/MinGW because it is very standard compliant, and compiles very efficiently in release mode, and is very easy to configure.

When I have some doubts on some compliance, I switch to comeau online.

Finally, whenever I need some heavy debugging, I use VStudio2008, because the IDE debugger is just so ridiculously powerful and easy to use. I never compile a release with VStudio though. Unless you know the 10000 configuration options, the release will not be at max efficiency.

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Originally Posted by monarch_dodra

I use VStudio2008, because the IDE debugger is just so ridiculously powerful and easy to use

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For just that reason I use MSVC for the debugging session. If target is an embedded system I use gcc for the "final" compilation.

GCC and G++ are the way to go, there is port to win32 and 64, Mingw and works well with either QT IDE or Netbeans C/++.

I usually use Mingw and Code::Blocks. You can download Code::Blocks with Mingw already setup with their release versions. The latest is 10.05 as I wrote this.

MSVC does allow for better debugging. If I come across code I can't debug with Mingw, I use MSVC 2008 express. I also use both to make sure my code compiles with no warnings on either compiler and runs after compiled on each compiler. This makes sure my code is even more stable.

I use GCC. It's the best available for Linux and Mac. On windows most programs I write are for MinGW, the only time I use Visual C++ is for 64-bit windows programming and only because there is no pthread port for 64-bit win. It's more a matter of my preference of Code::Blocks to Visual Studios though more than MinGW over VC++

I use both Visual Studio 2010 and gcc 4.5.0. Each compiler flags different warnings, and sometimes an obscure error in one will be stated more plainly in the other.

As has been mentioned, Visual Studio has a very powerful debugger; but gcc does the build/cancel/build cycle much faster on my system so it's better when I'm running through a long list of errors and want to rebuild after fixing each. Also, valgrind is indispensable for catching heisenbugs, so its lack of Windows support is a major point in gcc's favor.

It's important to separate the compiler from the IDE.

The IDE is responsible for things like syntax checking and debugging, and the compiler is responsible for laying down code. I'm pretty sure even VS sports a separate syntax checker as of 2010.

One cannot compare compilers by comparing the syntax checking and debugging capabilities of different IDE's. To compare compilers one should compare the quality of the code they emit and how C++ standard compliant they are (and maybe how fast they are but that's of secondary importance in my view).

I use Microsoft Visual Studio Express and I love how easy it is to view and manipulate variables while debugging. I can still remember how long it used to take me to debug my programs before I realized how to use breakpoints! Life was much easier after that.

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Originally Posted by nuzzle

The IDE is responsible for things like syntax checking and debugging

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Um, false. Maybe the VS IDE does that, but in GCC, the GNU suite does all of that

In GCC, syntax checking is done by the grammar, which is built into the compiler (g++) and debugging is done by gdb. Most IDEs just hook into them, I don't know any IDE that does either one. In fact, using the GNU suite, you can compile, syntax check, and debug without an IDE at all. I know a few programmers who use vi and the command line to write software.

Besides, the IDE and other features available do make a difference. As Lindley said, the lack of high quality debugging tools like Valgrind for Windows forces a lot of programmers to do their engineering on *nix, so VC++ is out for a lot of us.

I suppose that the IDE is responsible for integrating components used for development into a single environment. Some components are more closely integrated than others :D

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Originally Posted by laserlight

I suppose that the IDE is responsible for integrating components used for development into a single environment. Some components are more closely integrated than others :D

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Yeah, but even then it largely comes down to preference. XCode is by a wide margin the best IDE for me and Eclipse is by a wide margin the worst. But I'm sure other people would say otherwise. I actually prefer Instruments to Valgrind too. Although I use both, sometimes Instruments will show me something Valgrind doesn't and vice versa. Still, nothing on Windows compares to either one.

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Originally Posted by laserlight

i suppose that the ide is responsible for integrating components used for development into a single environment. Some components are more closely integrated than others :d

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Ha ha. :D

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Originally Posted by ninja9578

Yeah, but even then it largely comes down to preference. XCode is by a wide margin the best IDE for me and Eclipse is by a wide margin the worst. But I'm sure other people would say otherwise. I actually prefer Instruments to Valgrind too. Although I use both, sometimes Instruments will show me something Valgrind doesn't and vice versa. Still, nothing on Windows compares to either one.

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I tried Googling Instruments but, unsurprisingly, didn't come up with relevant results. Could you provide a link?

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Originally Posted by Lindley

I tried Googling Instruments but, unsurprisingly, didn't come up with relevant results. Could you provide a link?

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Really? I find that very surprising. Go to /Developer/Applications ;) It comes with XCode.

http://theappleblog.com/2010/08/04/a...or-developers/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instruments_(application)

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Originally Posted by ninja9578

Yeah, but even then it largely comes down to preference. XCode is by a wide margin the best IDE for me and Eclipse is by a wide margin the worst. But I'm sure other people would say otherwise.

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I will, gladly. :D

I use Eclipse CDT with gcc. Besides both of them (eclipse and gcc) being cross-platform, Eclipse CDT has an internal parser which parses your code on the fly and applies syntax highlighting. You can do some very cool things with the syntax highlighting, like color a method name differently if it's misspelt, or even if calling it violates const-correctness! This helps you catch a lot of mistakes before you even compile, thus saving you a lot of time. I've yet to see another IDE that can do that (To be fair, I've never tried Xcode so I can't say anything about that).

VS2010 does on-the-fly syntax highlighting, but I turned it off to increase responsiveness.

I thought syntax highlighting was just for looks :D. When I had the trial of vs2010, syntax error highlighting was a pain. It took too long to figure out the syntax was right to begin with or I needed to compile the code for it to realize everything was okay. It was counter-productive

Sorry to bump that old thread, but I think it's the best place to ask...

A fellow developer of mine wants to learn C++. He is no noob, rather a generally experienced developer who just hasn't experience with this language. He showed me a book he wants to use, which I somehow could "approve". It's based on g++ and accompanied by a CD, but that's version 2.95.2. But the book at least covers the '98 standard.

I recommended to use a newer version of g++ together with a convenient IDE (which is nothing that's mentioned in the book). I didn't see any concrete suggestions for something like that here in that thread, and a Google search gave me many hits of which I'm not really sure how relevant they are.

Can anyone in here give me a link to download a recent version of g++ bundled with a convenient IDE?

This is for Windows.

That's not for me. Some of you might already have seen that I'm using VC++ and am more or less happy with it... :)

Any pointers?

TIA

http://www.codeblocks.org/downloads/26 download codeblocks-10.05mingw-setup.exe

It comes with gcc/g++ 4.4.1 which isn't that old.

On Windows, I actually prefer Nuwen MinGW "distro", which is frequently updated (GCC 4.5.1 at the moment, and includes a fresh Boost version). Then I install GDB from MinGW SourceForge page, plus dependencies (expat).
I like to work in NetBeans C/C++ IDE.

Compiling the code in VC++ too is always preferred, to get a nice, standard compliant code. As is forcing the compiler to work in -pedantic -ansi modes. ;) Also, I try to compile the code on Linux too, to make sure it's portable, as long, as I am not forced to program for one OS only.

Links:
http://nuwen.net/mingw.html
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/files/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ming...m/GDB/GDB-7.2/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ming...expat-2.0.1-1/
http://netbeans.org/