Finally wanting to bite the bullet and start using .Net

(Hi Hannes - its me George1111 - they lost my details on Codeguru so I'm no longer a 5 star general any more - Never mind as I don't think I even qualify as a newbie anymore).

I finally decided to stop waiting for Microsoft to settle .Net.
I figured that now it is 2017 - What must be more advanced than .Net 2017 so I downloaded the Community edition.
Coming from VB6, I hastened to look in the toolbox - nothing
Looked around - not much to see.
I have lost my hammer and chistle as it is 2017 and I half expected that I could be up and running with the wonderful, shiny new, .Net 2017 in an instant.
What I think I have discovered is equivalent to ordering a Ferrari, and they have delivered it - disassembled in parts.
All I have to do is put all the parts together and I can then drive my wonderful new car.
Sadly, there are no CLEAR instructions on how you build the car - and where you start.

So here I am again, going back into waiting mode, wondering if I will ever have the joy of programming in .Net

I am amazed that the more we have advanced the more Microsoft want to find ways to trip you up, and cause you to become immensely frustrated.

They did it with their Office pack - changed every place you used to find things
They did it with Windows 10 - pretty as a picture, but thank god I know that inside there is "Notepad" and I know how to use "Run"- a newbie would just be scratching their head
Now they have discovered that I am interested in .Net 2017, so I think the version they download (just for me), needs a University degree just to get it started

Is this for real (or did I come in backdoor instead of the front door)

Either way - I am exasperated once again - well done Microsoft !!

As a constructive comment, is there a document somewhere I can follow like a donkey, and actually get the wonderous .Net 2017 to kick into life ?

There are plenty of .net tutorials on the internet. Try searching for some with google or bing. With very little effort, you'll be able to round up tutorials from Microsoft and others.

I've not looked at the 2017 version so not sure what you are seeing.
I have been using .Net since the 2003 release and use mostly 2008 version

The interface and toolbox is not all that different from what we had in VB6 and took no time at all to get up and running.

There are however options in how the IDE appears, I set mine to vb developer initially so it appears more like what I am used to.

Hey George! I am happy that you have decided to go into .NET - eventually, you will not regret it.

Thing is: A lot has changed in the technology landscape since the first .NET came out in 2002. With VS 2017 you are able to build apps for mobile (any platform) and operating systems (macOS, Windows and even Linux), Bots, IoT, and AI.

You would have to start a new project, by selecting File, New project. Inside there is a plethora of options, I agree (too many). You should be looking into Windows Forms projects for a start.
on another note, you can be glad you are starting with VS 2017 and not 2013 - 2015. Those installers sucked, and you would not have been impressed. :)

Here's a couple of articles that may help you get on your feet:

Introduction to Visual Basic List Controls
http://www.codeguru.com/vb/controls/...-controls.html


Visual Basic Basics: Modules, Scope, and Accessibility Modifiers
http://www.codeguru.com/vb/gen/vb_mi...modifiers.html

What's New in Visual Studio 2017?
http://www.codeguru.com/columns/vb/w...udio-2017.html

Get Started with .NET Core and Visual Studio 2017
http://www.codeguru.com/columns/vb/g...udio-2017.html

Getting to Know All of the Visual Basic Dialog Boxes
http://www.codeguru.com/columns/vb/g...log-boxes.html

Getting Started with Visual Basic: Getting the VB Software
http://www.codeguru.com/columns/vb/g...-software.html

Getting Started with Visual Basic: Your First Visual Basic Program for the Desktop
http://www.codeguru.com/columns/vb/g...e-desktop.html

Getting Started with Visual Basic: Your First Universal App VB Program
http://www.codeguru.com/columns/vb/g...b-program.html

I hope these help you George!

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Originally Posted by HanneSThEGreaT

Hey George! I am happy that you have decided to go into .NET - eventually, you will not regret it.

Thing is: A lot has changed in the technology landscape since the first .NET came out in 2002. With VS 2017 you are able to build apps for mobile (any platform) and operating systems (macOS, Windows and even Linux), Bots, IoT, and AI.

You would have to start a new project, by selecting File, New project. Inside there is a plethora of options, I agree (too many). You should be looking into Windows Forms projects for a start.
on another note, you can be glad you are starting with VS 2017 and not 2013 - 2015. Those installers sucked, and you would not have been impressed. :)

Here's a couple of articles that may help you get on your feet:

Introduction to Visual Basic List Controls
http://www.codeguru.com/vb/controls/...-controls.html


Visual Basic Basics: Modules, Scope, and Accessibility Modifiers
http://www.codeguru.com/vb/gen/vb_mi...modifiers.html

What's New in Visual Studio 2017?
http://www.codeguru.com/columns/vb/w...udio-2017.html

Get Started with .NET Core and Visual Studio 2017
http://www.codeguru.com/columns/vb/g...udio-2017.html

Getting to Know All of the Visual Basic Dialog Boxes
http://www.codeguru.com/columns/vb/g...log-boxes.html

Getting Started with Visual Basic: Getting the VB Software
http://www.codeguru.com/columns/vb/g...-software.html

Getting Started with Visual Basic: Your First Visual Basic Program for the Desktop
http://www.codeguru.com/columns/vb/g...e-desktop.html

Getting Started with Visual Basic: Your First Universal App VB Program
http://www.codeguru.com/columns/vb/g...b-program.html

I hope these help you George!

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Always the guy with the goods - You are still the best Hannes (or is is the Greatest ?)
Looking forward to getting going in .Net

Thanks for the Links
Just what I needed to point me in the right direction

Cheers
George