I'm asking our system admins if there has been heavy spider/bot usage over the past 24 hours to see if they can figure out the issue. I'll let you konw when I learn something.
I've been having issues already too. It took me 30 minuets to get the registration screen to work, then I couldn't get any threads to load. I had to click the link two dozen times before it even started to load. I tried refreshing FF and that didn't help either. I thought it was just because of my 56K connection.
The virtical banner on the right side is slowing me down too, it takes up a lot of space on the screen and comes back on every single page. Does that banner really have to display on every page? I can understand the main pages, but not every one. Or maybe you can add a cookie to it so when someone clicks "expand forum to full width" it goes away and stays away. After clicking that link a few dozen times its starting to annoy me.
There's also this border overlap issue you got going on in the signature page, not sure if you know about it or not. I attached a screen shot so you can see what I'm talking about.
I like the website though, seems like there is a lot of usefull content.
Or maybe you can add a cookie to it so when someone clicks "expand forum to full width" it goes away and stays away. After clicking that link a few dozen times its starting to annoy me..
Amen to that..!! It gets quite annoying when you click to remove the banner ads but they simply come straight back again. I understand that the site is free for users and therefore needs to be funded by advertising - but the nature and the amount of advertising on this site has become very intrusive.
"A problem well stated is a problem half solved.” - Charles F. Kettering
There's also this border overlap issue you got going on in the signature page, not sure if you know about it or not. I attached a screen shot so you can see what I'm talking about.
I have noticed the same with the latest Firefox browser (1.5), thus, it might related to the browser version...
There's also this border overlap issue you got going on in the signature page, not sure if you know about it or not. I attached a screen shot so you can see what I'm talking about.
I use Firefox mostly on this site, so I see the goofed area too. This is a firefox issue (so I'm told and so I believe). PLus, I know it doesn't occur on IE.
It is so slow to load. Sometimes it never does and I use IE. This is ridiculous. You would think a site dedicated to programming would actually work. I stop coming here because of the ads and after a couple months, really gave it another try but really, when you only have so many minutes to in your day, to waste them looking at a blank screen waiting to load....smell ya later codeguru.
The Saganesque excuse of "there's billions of posts to sort through" can be drawn like a gun all you want but its shooting blanks for those that have been around long enough. Do any suits higher up ever read this section?
"The Chicken and Rice MRE is not a personal lubricant."
Pages on this site rarely take more than a second or two to load for me. I use both DSL and cable with the results being similar on both. Additionally, I use IE and Firefox and both result in the same speeds for the most part.
Every now and then things will slow down when traffic on the site peaks (or when bots/spiders hit the site hard). In general, if it takes over about 15 seconds for me to load a page, then there is usually something going on that is not normal.
Of course, if you are using dialup, then your laod times are not going to be this fast on this site or most major sites. Research has shown that most people that are doing serious technical development are not using dialup connections anymore.
If you are on broadband and it is taking more than 15 seconds to get a page loaded anywhere on this site -- and if other sites are loading quickly --then you should feel free to ping me with a PM or an email (webmaster AT Codeguru.com.
Pages on this site rarely take more than a second or two to load for me.
No disrespect intended Brad - but I wonder if this is part of the problem? I use DSL myself (admittedly only a "slow" connection, at 576Kb) but 15 seconds is usually the minimum time I have to wait. Very, very, VERY rarely it will work at what I would call an acceptable speed but typically, I'd say that around 40 seconds is the average time for a page to load. Often (and this happens every single day, at some point) I'll find myself waiting anywhere between 2 and 5 minutes.
Even more frustrating though are the frequent "half loaded" pages - where the browser reports "done" when only the background has been loaded (i.e. no text). Often I'll have to press my Refresh button 5 or 6 times before a page loads properly. These aren't occasional problems. For the past few months, this has pretty much been the norm.
[Edit...] A case in point... after I typed out this message and pressed Preview Post it took 54 seconds for the Preview page to appear...!
"A problem well stated is a problem half solved.” - Charles F. Kettering
On DSL, the times you are reporting are not acceptable. Can you verify that going to other sites, you get load times of a few seconds or less (sites like www.google.com or www.yahoo.com)
And to do me a big favor.... The next time you get a load time > 30 seconds, can you immediately try going to a site like google to see if it loads quickly? This will simply confirm that it is this site and not your ISP (and thus give me better ammunition when talking to our systems guys )
I can save you a bit of time here Brad. I've already tried the things you suggested and it's definitely this site.
I know this is going to sound weird - but for me, the site usually works well on a Monday for most of the working day (UK time). However, for most of the rest of the week it varies from being acceptable about 15% of the time, bearable about 60% of the time and unuseable about 25% of the time. Weekends are usually worst.
[Edit...] BTW, I'd describe "bearable" as being 30 - 90 seconds to load a page. "Unuseable" is 90 seconds or more.
Last edited by John E; December 19th, 2005 at 10:46 AM.
"A problem well stated is a problem half solved.” - Charles F. Kettering
I have noticed that ISPs are blocking adware, ppopups and spyware and firewalls are being configured to crack down too. Some of the slowdowns I believe are firewalls closing sockets that need to be open and so fourth. I believe that most of the problem is that were trying to creatively block ads but were also taking performance hits on our internet browsing experience. One of my ISPs actually blocks google! Yiyiyikes! How many google ads are out there again?
True to form, the site was fine all day yesterday (Monday) and it was fine today up until about 3 o'clock / 3:30-ish UK time. Since then, it's slowed down to a crawl.
As I write, I have 2 IE browser windows open. One is the one I'm typing this response into (Feedback forum). The other is trying to open a thread over on the Visual C++ forum. The one connected to the Visual C++ forum simply won't open any thread. I can get onto the main Visual C++ board but I've tried 2 or 3 different threads there without any success. That browser has been stuck on Opening page: http ://www .codeguru.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=7 for 6 or 7 minutes - despite me pressing Refresh about 4 times, so far.
I don't understand why I can get onto the Feedback forum but not the Visual C++ forum when they're ostensibly the same site....
[Edit...] It seems I spoke too soon. It took over 4 minutes to actually post this response - but I did notice something else while I was waiting. Just a theory - but of those who are having problems, how many are using Zone Alarm firewall? I do - and it seems to be the case that if I shut down Zone Alarm, the site works normally. When I re-activate it, I get the slow response times again.
It's probably a red herring although it does seem to be consistent at the moment. The question is - what could be happening on this site to make Zone Alarm start playing up at certain times of the day???
[Edit again...] It WAS a red herring. My Zone Alarm has been switched off for the past few minutes but I'm still getting slow response / no response...
Last edited by John E; December 20th, 2005 at 01:34 PM.
"A problem well stated is a problem half solved.” - Charles F. Kettering
3:00ish UK time would be around 9:00 am US time -- about the time the East coast, US people are all getting online. I wonder if that has anything to do with the slowness. I'm continuing to bring this thread to the attention of our system admins so they can continue to figure things out.
I was told that even more, better hardware is now planned specifically for the forum. Don't know when it will happen, but it is now in the works.
And to do me a big favor.... The next time you get a load time > 30 seconds, can you immediately try going to a site like google to see if it loads quickly? This will simply confirm that it is this site and not your ISP (and thus give me better ammunition when talking to our systems guys
I've done that too. Tested not only with sites like google and yahoo, but other forums at least as big as CG (not sure if the name counts). While it took 20, 30, 120 minutes for a page to load on CG (even 5 minutes some days), the other sites were working perfectly. Just a few seconds to open a page. The problem is that one day the site works fine, the next one it's a nightmare to browse it, then few days it's ok again, but then problems are back. This is going on for about a month or perhaps 6 weeks. Something like that. Not sure what has changed in this timeframe (probably a part of this is played by the big ads) but the access to the site is clearly different than a couple of months ago.
I have seen some wierder things of late. For e.g. sometimes clicking on an article ( from the forums links ) brings up sitemap. However, if I navigate to main CG page and view all articles and click on an article, it comes up fine. Not sure if it is related, but wanted to bring up since there are some wierd issues talked about in this thread.
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