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March 13th, 2006, 08:26 PM
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Very interesting artilce on Programming Languages
Jim
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March 15th, 2006, 04:45 PM
#2
Re: Very interesting artilce on Programming Languages
Nothing special. Actually poor in my opinion. Nothing else than expressing personal opinions on several programming languages. Let me tell this guy something: it's not the C++ or OOP that is poor or dumb, it the person that misuses it.
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March 15th, 2006, 04:49 PM
#3
Re: Very interesting artilce on Programming Languages
Sounded a little like maybe he didn't fully understand C++ or how to use it correctly..IMHO...
Jim
ATP BE400 CE500 (C550B-SPW) CE560XL MU300 CFI CFII
"The speed of non working code is irrelevant"... Of course that is just my opinion, I could be wrong.
"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."...Calvin Coolidge 30th President of the USA.
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March 15th, 2006, 10:55 PM
#4
Re: Very interesting artilce on Programming Languages
I don't know if interesting is the right word for it, seems mis-informed and over dramatised.
A bad programmer, in any language, is a bad programmer. The only point I could agree on in the article was that ruby is a fun toy. Just not sure that it's more than that yet.
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March 16th, 2006, 03:22 PM
#5
Re: Very interesting artilce on Programming Languages
seems mis-informed and over dramatised
Exactly! Like a Greek tragedy with C++ being the tragic, doomed hero. Or, at least, that's where I stopped reading.
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March 16th, 2006, 06:30 PM
#6
Re: Very interesting artilce on Programming Languages
He does actually make a few valid points.
But I'll still take Java over C++, even without MI, because I know that no matter how good my intentions are, I will at some point be surrounded by people who don't know how to code, and they will do far less damage with Java than with C++.
C++ doesn't suck, it's just too complicated to learn and use correctly. I had a code review last week where I saw stuff like this:
Code:
vector<char> *v;
v = (vector<char> *) malloc(sizeof(vector<char>));
...
void somefunc(char *s);
...
etc. etc.
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March 16th, 2006, 11:39 PM
#7
Re: Very interesting artilce on Programming Languages
 Originally Posted by Yves M
C++ doesn't suck, it's just too complicated to learn and use correctly.
You're not wrong on that... 5 years and I still have no bloody idea what I'm doing half the time...
The article is a bit childish by the way. If he wanted to criticise a programming language he could have chosen better words to describe it instead of saying "C++ is dumb".
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March 17th, 2006, 04:39 PM
#8
Re: Very interesting artilce on Programming Languages
 Originally Posted by yves
Code:
vector<char> *v;
v = (vector<char> *) malloc(sizeof(vector<char>));
Tell me you're joking.
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March 17th, 2006, 09:44 PM
#9
Re: Very interesting artilce on Programming Languages
Well it came from a C programmer who had just started to use C++ a few months ago and thought the STL was kinda cool ^^
You're not wrong on that... 5 years and I still have no bloody idea what I'm doing half the time...
Same here. There are a few areas in C++ that I don't really know how to use in a good way. And that's also after 5+ years of mainly using C++ :/ Then again you don't really need *everything* in the language to be able to write good programs.
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March 21st, 2006, 09:07 AM
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Re: Very interesting artilce on Programming Languages
He just seemed more to be complaining about C++ for not providing Reflection... well.. its not that its undispensable in OOP.. and hence I would not agree to him/her in this sense..
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