programming jobs without degree

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Who's not paying attention?

My main point is that I consider individual outcomes completely irrelevant for anyone who's trying to decide whether to pursue a university education. If you find it rude that I'm not exactly jumping for joy over yet another life story it's your problem.

Instead explain what you think drives non-gradauates who constantly are badmouthing higher education in general and graduates in particular. I think it's insecurity. If you think it's something else it would be interesting to know what?

The fact that you're posting this shows that you're ignoring what's being said. I've said it several times but I'll say it again although I don't see the point. Nobody said don't get an education. All anybody said is that given a candidate with no experience and a degree, or no degree and relevant experience, the experienced one is more likely to get hired. The other point was that as your resume gets longer, the degree gets less important. I would welcome you to point out the post where anybody said an education isn't worth getting.

Nobody is arguing against education. I don't know why you keep pretending anybody is. I don't know why you feel the need to degrade those of us with decades of experience in the field. The two of us making that point that you seem to be railing against both have degrees anyway, so it's not some kind of bogus justification on our part. You say it's insecurity on the part of those without degrees. I have two master's degrees. That kind of blows holes in your theory doesn't it, and that's the only reason I mention them.

You really have been very rude and condescending and should rethink your attitude. At least respond to what's being said, not to your straw man.