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[zafir]

One more thing that I have to fix. And, of course, the forum script also has to be fixed so that the URL shows up properly when you receive the response.

Why not sell the whole code to Microsoft?

Maybe they put everything into the MSDN and even more people will get helped.

"Nothing will change..."

...if someone gives that much money for something he want to do something with it.


And now a Question:

Is it possible to copy the whole articles and put it on another homepage(s)?
Just for the reason that more people can share the information stored in the articles.

Hello Zafir,

I think this terms and conditions are far better as before. However i see a main problem in those rules: We do have the copyright of our single articles but we all developpers and EVEN YOU don't have rights on the collection of articles in the future. The rules on the collection of our code can change always.

I am only a little fish between all developpers. But all little fishes together have been working together to help each other by sharing their knowledge. The work of me, single fish, is not of great use for all other fishes. I already had a complain about it. But it is of use for some of them. And the work of all fishes together is of great use for all fishes. But with these new rules Earth Web will own our collection of knowledge. Earth Web controls this way a key information which somebody needs who has normal problems with windows, C++ and mfc.

The main problem is here: If Earth Web owns the collection they can do with this collection what they want. It is possible that Earth Web will be sold too or Earth Web does sell CodeGuru to another company, even WITHOUT your agreement. The later company can stop publishing our collection of code due to financial, commercial or other reasons. Or they can make a mess from it when you have left the company.

So i would prefer a model where the source code AND the collection of source code is open source. Earth web may be one publisher of this code, but not the only one. If there are other publishers they can take the collection and publish it on their own way.

What is the collection of source code? I think it is only the source code, the titles, the articles and the comments of the readers. Perhaps the classification belongs to this too. This collection is the main part which we have to save for the future and which should not depend on a single person or single company any more. How this collection is published is not important, because this always can be done again, better, faster etc.

If Earth Web has big crisis, for example after a crash on the wallstreet or when they have made big financial errors, another company or a group of interested programmers can take the always open collection and publish it on their own way.

I think you won't have any commercial problems with this model, because the way you publish your code and the way you react on the critics shows me you are able to be one of the best of the publishers.

And you would certainly gain back the trust of the authors, because they can be sure their work won't be lost between the sellers and resellers of information.

And i don't need to start a group where all members have the same interest: Sharing their code. Independent on what is happening on the wallstreet. But free for the people like you to present the code as beautiful as they can or make from this code collection as much money as they are able to.

Ernst Versteeg, Switzerland
[email protected]

Why is everyone upset about this? I can see absolutely no difference (aside from the ugly wavy green border) betweent the site now and before. The content has not changed in any way.

The only thing new I come away with is a loss of respect for Kirk Stowell. I always read his articles and tried to use his code, but the requirement for putting his name in the About box is ridiculous considering the code doesn't really work that great and often needs fixing.

More power to Zafir for selling the site.

[LJP]

To make this site faster, use the Opera web browser, and turn off the graphics, that takes care of that wavy-gravy line to the left, also.

[LJP]

Zafir-
You have undoubtedly gotten more crap about this whole transisition than you deserve. I think this agreement is more than fair, and precise in its terms. Nitpicking about the term 'collection' is about as laughable as discussing what the definition of the word is is. Wake up people- the code is YOURS, the web site is THERE'S. Get over it... and SHOW THE CODE !!!

[LJP]

turn off the graphics, or use a better web browser, like Opera

The site is now about about ten times slower than it was (no exageration). I don't have the patience for this slow, pretty, frilly thing. If this keeps up it will lose its attraction for me. I will move on to a no nonsense programmers site. This is such a perfect example of how commercialization can ruin the web.

Until CodeGuru is returned to its former greatness, boycott Developer.com and EarthWeb.com. Remove yourself from all mail list from these sites and make sure you tell them why. CodeGuru was ours, not Zafirs. We all want it back.

Currently, comments get lost occasionally (e.g. about Syntax Highlighting Editor), which leads to same errors being debugged by several people (which means reinventing wheels ...). I would have posted this at the proper forum, but my former account got lost at EarthWeb and there currently is no way to get a new one! By the way: Login handling without cookies or scripts would be a great enhancement of the site! I have deactivated scripts and I can see no difference, so they are only a risk (not worth taking!).

[emde]

Dear developers

I've found a simple utility which filters web pages from ads, animated gifs, popup windows and other unwanted stuff. It works as a HTTP proxy, has lots of configuration options, and it's free.

I've tested it on CodeGuru - work's great! Pages are loading a little bit faster, and at least I don't get this annoying speeding cars or voting banners. Here's link:

http://www.siemens.de/servers/wwash/wwash_us.htm

Enjoy,
Marcin Danielak

[zafir]

It could be the server itself or the internet traffic or both. Right now I tend to suspect that it was due to internet traffic since at the moment the speed of these discussions is quite good. Anyway, I've already raised the issue of speed and I am sure the systems guys will look into this.

[zafir]

It could be the server itself or the internet traffic or both. Right now I tend to suspect that it was due to internet traffic since at the moment the speed of these discussions is quite good. Anyway, I've already raised the issue of speed and I am sure the systems guys will look into this.

ohmygod - it's slow. This General Discussion being a good(bad) example.

Wavy line gets in the way of the left side of the non-navigation bar text.

Over use of tables makes nothing render until whole page is downloaded. Pages are huge, fat, bloaty pages. Justr look at the HTML of this page and see all the bandwidth killing alt="*" crap in the pages - robots only doin' as they were told. Even the stylesheet is bloaty for christs sake - no wonder the site runs like fat three legged dog on valium dragging an anchor!

Goodbye CodeGuru, it was good while it lasted. Yet more proof that commercial reality is a little too much reality for good web sites to take. Maybe my site shoudl get woken up agin<bg>.

[mmesser]

Many thanks for creating this marvellous resource. I have learned a lot and continue to learn. I hope the folks at Earthweb keep it up.

Where do I send a comment about a broken link? E.g. http://www.codeguru.com/mfc/comments/886.shtml
has a link to Re: that leads to error 404.