Who is Uncle Sam?!

**Xeon** · February 14th, 2003, 10:50 PM

No no...don't gimme crap. I know Uncle Sam isn't Sam Hobbs. Uncle Sam must be some president in the old ages in America, while our Sam Hobbs is a programmer in CA, USA.

Just who is Uncle Sam? This figure always appear in newspaper and articles and is always shown with white hair, a tall hat(with US-flag designs) and a suit with US-flag designs too.(the stars, the reds, the whites, the stripes and the blues)

He doesn't resemble Lincoln(Lincoln has dark brown/black hair etc.) and he doesn't resemble George Washington too.(G. Washington has curly-like hair)
And I know he's not the notorious and infamous modern President of War : George War Bush.

Just who is Uncle Sam? Brad L. Jones?! Err no no...sorry.

**Tom Frohman** · February 14th, 2003, 11:20 PM

Well the key is that Uncle Sam's initials are US. He is a fictional character who symbolizes the US government(Big Brother?). Sort of like John Bull for England. Supposedly there was some guy long ago who was used as the prototype for uncle sam but on the whole it is just a slangy way of referring to the US government.

They could have as easily used Elvis.

A dubious explanation of the origin of Uncle Sam:
http://www.spirithistory.com/unclesam.html

A better explanation
http://home.nycap.rr.com/content/us_bio.html

Tom

**Wfranc** · February 15th, 2003, 12:03 AM

Sure you knew that but why you made such a question ?

By the way can you tell me how old you are Xeon???

**Xeon** · February 15th, 2003, 12:03 AM

Thanks a lot, Tom!

Before this, I thought Uncle Sam was some grand wise USA President of old America.

Thanks!

**Xeon** · February 15th, 2003, 12:10 AM

No no, WFranc! I dunno who Uncle Sam really was, you see.

And I'm 18 years old this year. BUT....I'm sure you're younger than me! I bet you're 14?!

**Wfranc** · February 15th, 2003, 12:19 AM

But you know, I thought you were around 24

**Xeon** · February 15th, 2003, 12:24 AM

Nah, WFranc! If I'm 24, I would probably be speaking like Irona.

If I'm 30, I would probably be speaking like Tom Frohman's old brother.
If I'm 40++, I would be speaking like Brad.

**Wfranc** · February 15th, 2003, 12:44 AM

from XeON

If I'm 30, I would probably be speaking like Tom Frohman's old brother.
If I'm 40++, I would be speaking like Brad.

No.... I think Brad is over 55. and Tom is around 26.

i am telling you the truth that may turn out to be mistaken or incorect

.

**Tom Frohman** · February 15th, 2003, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by Wfranc
Tom is around 26.

44

My motto, you have to grow old but you can stay immature for the rest of your life.

**Xeon** · February 15th, 2003, 08:23 AM

From WFranc:

No.... I think Brad is over 55. and Tom is around 26.i am telling you the truth that may turn out to be mistaken or incorect .

Nah! Brad is only around 38 - 42 years old!

And oh. I can't believe Tom is 44??!!!

I thought Tom is just a man who just graduated from university and is having a young wife?!!

My motto, you have to grow old but you can stay immature for the rest of your life.

I agree totally!

That's why I'm planning to volunteer for being a baby-sitter part-time in some child-care center.

**Tom Frohman** · February 15th, 2003, 08:41 AM

I thought Tom is just a man who just graduated from university and is having a young wife?!!

Just graduated? It hasn't been that long.

I finished my Ph.D. in 1999. I finished undergraduate in 1982. I worked many years then quit and went back to school.

Young wife? Well my lady is 49. I guess that is pretty young

**Wfranc** · February 15th, 2003, 01:31 PM

Oh Xeon that partime job isreally suitable for you because I am absolutely sure that you can make children laugh all the time

But remember not to teach them how to become playboys Okay ?

Young wife? Well my lady is 49. I guess that is pretty young

Oh Tom, your wife is still young, and I am also sure that she will be happy and get younger when she lives with you. Because you are also the guy who can make people laugh from time to time, you know that !

Is it true that people will become much younger if they just try to keep smiling and.....maybe laughing all the time ? I think it is.!!!

So when we meet in this forum, we laugh to be younger

**morrowasted** · February 22nd, 2003, 07:23 PM

Actually you guys, Uncle Sam was created in 1789 as a representaion of Congress. I never really noticed that the initials were US, thats pretty cool.

**Tom Frohman** · February 22nd, 2003, 08:19 PM

Actually you guys, Uncle Sam was created in 1789 as a representaion of Congress. I never really noticed that the initials were US, thats pretty cool.

Do you have any references for this?

This does not sync with the explanation given at most websites of the origin of uncle sam in the first half of the 1800's.

see the two links given above

http://www.spirithistory.com/unclesam.html

http://home.nycap.rr.com/content/us_bio.html

**morrowasted** · February 22nd, 2003, 08:35 PM

well thats what my US History teacher said. He first appeared as a man pulling out his empty pockets to raise money for the gov't, according to what i read in my history textbook...

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