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April 25th, 2003, 04:48 AM
#1
I need advice, could you nice guys give me and a friend of mine some help ?
This is not WFRANC's problem....Just afraid some of you will think it s mine ....so I have to say it at the beginning...
I have a close friend. She got an invitation letter yesterday that someone would like to invite her to a formal party on this Sunday. She doesnot really want to go, but she has no choice, if she refuses, they ll say she doesnt show any respect.
We have been neighbors since I was 8, I know she dislikes parties which are formal and full of the rich but fake bAstArds, she is also the same as Wfranc. I mean she likes to be always like this , so if she gets there , she will have to be like this or maybe like a groveling dog all the time which is not 'real and right at all'....me too, so we are really close. I would like to be any of her help but I dont know how, you guys, know quite well that If I were her, I willnot accept, and for me no matter how it will be then, I ll stay home watch romantic motion pictures of this modern days or spend my free time in some body buiding center..aha..I like this... If you were her, what would you do... ? Help me and help her please...
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April 25th, 2003, 05:24 AM
#2
Will there be Chicken Chops and all that good food 
Jesus died for my sin and now I am free
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April 25th, 2003, 05:57 AM
#3
She must do what she wants
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April 25th, 2003, 06:34 AM
#4
Go to the METAL PARTY together!!!
Irona , I know U want to say this
btw: Wfranc U so long have told about this, so the main idea that your friend (a girl ) doesn't wan't to go to the party but she must... why she cannot say that she early already promises for her friend (you) to spend Sunday with him...
But in every case this is not the end of World to go to the party but it is GOOD to have own strong power of mind to have a courage to say NO to someone if U donot want to do anuthing .
"UNIX is simple; it just takes a genius to understand its simplicity!"
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April 25th, 2003, 05:14 PM
#5
I agree with dimm_coder in that I think this is a situation that calls for lying. If this poor girl has been put in a situation where she must either harm herself emotionally by going to the party or harm herself socially by refusing, then lying is a perfectly acceptable alternative here. No one should be forced to harm themselves. If she already mentioned that she was free, an "unexpected emergency" can pop up. I see nothing wrong or dishonorable in lying when it is done for the purpose of protecting these harms of oneself, and in fact I see it as very honorable and righteous for a person to always do what is right in their heart.
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April 25th, 2003, 06:14 PM
#6
Originally posted by galathaea
I agree with dimm_coder in that I think this is a situation that calls for lying. If this poor girl has been put in a situation where she must either harm herself emotionally by going to the party or harm herself socially by refusing, then lying is a perfectly acceptable alternative here. No one should be forced to harm themselves. If she already mentioned that she was free, an "unexpected emergency" can pop up. I see nothing wrong or dishonorable in lying when it is done for the purpose of protecting these harms of oneself, and in fact I see it as very honorable and righteous for a person to always do what is right in their heart.
Deceit is not honorable, but then you a liar  Try having her just tell the truth and having the convictions to stand up for it. She should do what she wants, and not let others dictate to her.
If all else fails, give them the finger while pointing a loaded gun at their heads.
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April 25th, 2003, 07:37 PM
#7
If she must, then she must.
All she have to do is find something or reason that will make her 'enjoy' her presence. Probably look always for an opportunity under the circumstances.
If she goes there with a heavy heart, the more she will hate that party.
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April 25th, 2003, 10:50 PM
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Re: I need advice, could you nice guys give me and a friend of mine some help ?
Here's what you need to do Wfranc:
Fly to Beijing. Take a pitstop in Toronto on your way home. Incubate for a period of 12-18 hours. Tada! You've got SARS! The perfect excuse . (Okay, so maybe this wasn't my best suggestion ever)
SolarFlare
Those who cling to life die and those who defy death live. -Sun Tzu
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April 25th, 2003, 11:44 PM
#9
Oh 
JUST SHUT UP AND DO WHAT YOU ARE TOLD. Go to the party, get stinking drunk and vomit on the host. Maybe then you wont be invited to these parties anymore.
Wakeup in the morning and kick the day in the teeth!! Or something like that.
"i don't want to write leak free code or most efficient code, like others traditional (so called expert) coders do."
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April 26th, 2003, 12:09 AM
#10
Originally posted by souldog
Oh
JUST SHUT UP AND DO WHAT YOU ARE TOLD. Go to the party, get stinking drunk and vomit on the host. Maybe then you wont be invited to these parties anymore.
Works for me...
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April 26th, 2003, 04:59 AM
#11
couldnot buy what you said here... she WILL NEVER SHUT UP AND BE CONTROLED. <-- I am absolutely sure about this. Your sarcastic face looks... less beautiful and less less cuti than it used to be...
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Thank you everyone.... You guys really nice and I really donot know what to do if you werenot giving me any suggestions....
Thank you so so so very much............
Mick, I know you dont want to talk about franks andbeans So I promise you that I WONT talk about them...
Mick200n<---- n means endless, peasand corns ?D
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April 26th, 2003, 05:26 AM
#12
Originally posted by Wfranc
couldnot buy what you said here... she WILL NEVER SHUT UP AND BE CONTROLED. <-- I am absolutely sure about this. Your sarcastic face looks... less beautiful and less less cuti than it used to be...
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I surely did not intend to fall out of favor with you WFranc. I guest who vomits on the host can hardly be categorized as controlled.
You should tell your "friend" that you can not hide from the world.
Social conventions are tedious, but you need to learn to clash with them in an appropriate way. It seems that the description of the guests at the party as rich but fake bAstArds is probably an unfair generalization and indicates a lack of self-confidence on the part of your "friend". Go to the party, take it for what it is worth. Just do not compromise your integrity. If your nature is to be introverted, then be introverted. If some A_S_S makes a particularly banal comment, do not humor him with a polite grin, but with a cold disdainful stare. Just learn to be yourself, state your real opinions and these parties will be quite manageable.
Wakeup in the morning and kick the day in the teeth!! Or something like that.
"i don't want to write leak free code or most efficient code, like others traditional (so called expert) coders do."
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April 26th, 2003, 11:57 AM
#13
Originally posted by Wfranc
endless, peas and corns ?D
Are the butter of life.
If you should ask then maybe they'd
Tell you what I would say
True colors fly in blue and black
Bruised silken sky and burning flag
Colors crash, collide in blood shot eyes
Heh sorry, got the tunes cranked up
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April 30th, 2003, 04:37 AM
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 Souldog
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I surely did not intend to fall out of favor with you WFranc.
I guest who vomits on the host can hardly be categorized as controlled.
Thank you, Souldog... Souldog keeps that favor for Souldog's loved ones please..., Wfranc has alot, enough now and no need for more. Thank you
You should tell your "friend" that you can not hide from the world.
Social conventions are tedious, but you need to learn to clash with them in an appropriate way. It seems that the description of the guests at the party as rich but fake bAstArds is probably an unfair generalization and indicates a lack of self-confidence on the part of your "friend". Go to the party, take it for what it is worth. Just do not compromise your integrity. If your nature is to be introverted, then be introverted. If some A_S_S makes a particularly banal comment, do not humor him with a polite grin, but with a cold disdainful stare. Just learn to be yourself, state your real opinions and these parties will be quite manageable.
I am really sorry that I could not tell everyone about this problem. Not only Souldog but maybe all the people here didnot believe in what Wfranc said. It was Wfranc's fault that Wfranc didnot tell anyone here about this poor little girl. Yes, it was also Wfranc's fault to bring unhappiness to her. Wfranc just felt responsible for that... Sorry, Wfranc could not tell anything more about this problem.
Souldog... If Souldog dont like me, dont hate me Okay ??????? Souldog ?????? Okay ????
Souldog didnot ask for more information in details and gave me such suggestions, I really like what Souldog wrote here very much though . I thought Souldog just could fight when proving Souldog's problems/suggestions correct. Amazing... I like it . It is really hard to find out any straightforward guys in my area
Thank you Souldog..............
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